For what it's worth, I thought the Oasis explanation was pretty good, in that the magazine is attempting to get people involved with their pet birds' health and welfare, and that keeps the birds out of the rescues. On 7/20/10 9:55 AM, Mary Long wrote:

Those aren't the best publications out there. Unfortunately it contains too much ick advertising, "pretty" pictures, and, at times, gross generalizations (and junk) - but some articles contain tid-bits of decent enrichment/nutrition/information. (I think it's akin to the parrot's version of People Magazine) - but I didn't see anything in on the site that suggests she "likes" _pet stores_... Manhattan Bird Club has some good members, but it is also notorious for supporting gross exaggerations and partial-truths and guilt-by-association. It's like saying, "If you've visited Germany, you must be a Nazi." In this case, because she "likes" a magazine she supports pet-sales? Unless it's pointed out to me, I can't see where they gleened that info. Actually, I'm annoyed enough that I'm going to write Sybil and ask her.

--- On *Tue, 7/20/10, Elizabeth Y //* wrote:

From: Elizabeth Y Subject: [Media-advisors] FW: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores To: "Mickaboo media advisor team" Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 8:37 AM

Just FYI

------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: New York Bird Club Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:31 AM To: adoptkings@gmail.com Subject: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores

To view the thread go to: http://forums.manhattanbirdclub.com/post?id=4805538 http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.manhattanbirdclub.com%2Fpost%3Fid%3D4805538

Subject: Oasis Sanctuary *likes* Bird Channel Sybil Erden, the Director of the Oasis Sanctuary, *likes* Bird Channel page on Facebook. Why does she support petstores? Read their Mission Statement:

Bird Talk magazine, the leading pet bird magazine has been around for more than 25 years covering the pet bird industry and community. It and its sister publication, Birds USA, and its website www.BirdChannel.com http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.birdchannel.com%2F are known as the best source for news, health, nutrition, behavior, training and housing in all things pet bird with its expert editors and writers. Bird Talk, Birds USA and BirdChannel.com http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fbirdchannel.com%2F are part of the BowTie Inc. stable of magazines and books.

News on BirdChannel.com provided by... (read more)Mission:To provide information on pet bird care and a place for bird lovers to find resources and meet others in the bird community.Products:BirdChannel.com offers pet bird information and fun bird activities to bird lovers. Be a part of our growing community of bird lovers and bird enthusiasts. Get the latest advice on bird training basics, bird behavior, proper bird nutrition, and bird health. Ask questions to our bird experts and join our BIRD ECLUB® to meet other members of our bird community.

This message was sent from New York Bird Club to adoptkings@gmail.com. It was sent from: New York Bird Club, P.O. Box 286231, New York, NY 10128. You can modify/update your subscription via the link below.

Email Marketing by http://www.icontact.com/a.pl/144186 iContact - Try It Free! http://www.icontact.com/a.pl/144186

Manage your subscription http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=1044378127&l=6232&s=4BOP&m=5503557&c=41417 http://app.icontact.com/icp/core/message/forward?m=5503557&s=1044378127&c=4BOP&cid=41417

View this message in the iContact Community: View message http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icontact.com%2Fp%2Fnewyorkbirdclub%2Fnewsletters%2Ftaking_political_action_for_animals%2Fposts%2Foasis-sanctuary-supports-pet-stores Comment on this message http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icontact.com%2Fp%2Fnewyorkbirdclub%2Fnewsletters%2Ftaking_political_action_for_animals%2Fposts%2Foasis-sanctuary-supports-pet-stores%23commentform Receive as RSS http://community.icontact.com/p/newyorkbirdclub/newsletters/taking_political_action_for_animals/rss.xml?r=1044378127&l=6232&s=4BOP&m=5503557&c=41417

Share this message with others: del.icio.us http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fdel.icio.us%2Fpost%3Fv%3D4%26noui%26jump%3Dclose%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcommunity.icontact.com%252Fp%252Fnewyorkbirdclub%252Fnewsletters%252Ftaking_political_action_for_animals%252Fposts%252Foasis-sanctuary-supports-pet-stores%26title%3DOasis%2BSanctuary%2Bsupports%2Bpet%2Bstores Digg http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fdigg.com%2Fsubmit%3Fphase%3D2%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcommunity.icontact.com%252Fp%252Fnewyorkbirdclub%252Fnewsletters%252Ftaking_political_action_for_animals%252Fposts%252Foasis-sanctuary-supports-pet-stores%26title%3DOasis%2BSanctuary%2Bsupports%2Bpet%2Bstores reddit http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Freddit.com%2Fsubmit%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcommunity.icontact.com%252Fp%252Fnewyorkbirdclub%252Fnewsletters%252Ftaking_political_action_for_animals%252Fposts%252Foasis-sanctuary-supports-pet-stores%26title%3DOasis%2BSanctuary%2Bsupports%2Bpet%2Bstores Facebook http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fsharer.php%3Fu%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcommunity.icontact.com%252Fp%252Fnewyorkbirdclub%252Fnewsletters%252Ftaking_political_action_for_animals%252Fposts%252Foasis-sanctuary-supports-pet-stores%26title%3DOasis%2BSanctuary%2Bsupports%2Bpet%2Bstores StumbleUpon http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1044378127&msgid=5503557&act=4BOP&c=41417&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stumbleupon.com%2Fsubmit%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcommunity.icontact.com%252Fp%252Fnewyorkbirdclub%252Fnewsletters%252Ftaking_political_action_for_animals%252Fposts%252Foasis-sanctuary-supports-pet-stores%26title%3DOasis%2BSanctuary%2Bsupports%2Bpet%2Bstores

-----Inline Attachment Follows-----

I respect their forward thinking.  Hindsight is always 20-20. They've worked so hard to create these fantastic species-specific aviaries (last I looked was for Greys and Macaws).  They are WONDERFULLY planned and executed for birds who really enjoy each-other's company and not that much interested in human-parrot interaction.   It's something I wish Foster Parrots (was in MA, now in NJ) would consider.  They just moved from one "warehouse" (farmhouse) situation to another, newer/bigger "warehouse" ....actually, I don't want to go down this road.  It's obvious Marc loves birds, but.... --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Vincent J. Hrovat <1217@vhrovat.org> wrote: From: Vincent J. Hrovat <1217@vhrovat.org> Subject: Re: [Media-advisors] FW: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores To: "'Mickaboo media advisor team'" Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 11:16 AM Mary Long spoke thusly:

In this case, because she "likes" a magazine she supports pet-sales?  Unless it's pointed out to me, I can't see where they gleened that info.   I agree. As somebody else may have pointed out, “like” on theftbook means that you are following somebody’s content, not that you really like them or any of their content in the dictionary sense of the word. I’m sure that Sarah Palin, for example, has many people who “like” her because they want to know about it the instant she makes her next controversial statement.   Some of us might say that Oasis has a checkered past, but I would prefer seeing a position paper from their organization on the topic – or at least hear specific comments in context, from someone who is empowered to speak on behalf of the organization – before considering what positions they most support.       

--VH -----Inline Attachment Follows-----