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Re: [MickaCoo] [Mickaboo Discuss] Moratoriums, possible solution for some species? ALSO: two free cages available
by Elizabeth Y 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Correction: I miscounted. The built-for-MickaCoo aviary capacity is more than 100 birds (uncrowded and with room to fly). e -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Y <AdoptKings(a)gmail.com> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:17 AM To: General mickaboo discussion <discuss(a)mickaboo.org> Cc: MickaCoo(a)mickaboo.org <MickaCoo(a)mickaboo.org> Subject: RE: [Mickaboo Discuss] Moratoriums, possible solution for some species? ALSO: two free cages available I want to challenge and encourage you all with the information that there have been at least 7 aviaries built (so far) SPECIFICALLY for MickaCoo pigeons and doves with a combined capacity of more than 85 birds (a combination of adopted and fostered) and, while I know parrot aviaries are more complex and expensive, they are certainly possible. Mira Tweti writes about the Rutledge Cockatoo Rescue in Washington in her book, Of Parrots and People and I was very inspired by it. It's what I'll be doing for some parrots someday. From: Cal <rprewett(a)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:23 PM To: General mickaboo discussion <discuss(a)mickaboo.org> Subject: Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Moratoriums, possible solution for some species? ALSO: two free cages available Unfortunately, I think it's easier said than done, Kait. We would need to find a volunteer who has the land and is willing to dedicate it to Mickaboo's use. We need to get the materials needed to construct aviaries. We need volunteers to give their time to make the aviaries. Then someone needs to maintain and monitor the flocks we house there. Is this land going to be in a central-enough location that we can have regular volunteers who help care for the many birds? Or are we going to expect the generous land-owner to do that, as well? And do we have enough money/donations to see to necessary vet care for all of those birds, for the rest of their lives? It would certainly be nice! But I think it'd be difficult to pull off. ~Rachael On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Kait Ferrall <kferrall(a)yahoo.com> wrote: ________________________________________________________________________ First -- I have two cages that would be suitable for temporary quarantine cages for a small bird or two. I just purchased a large cage for the three budgies I'm fostering, same size cage as what my two 'tiels are in, and therefore do not need these small cages anymore. Black cage, has an angled roof like a house: 22 x 15 x 22 White cage, rectangular (with flat roof): 23 x 16 x 15 Second -- Here we go: It saddens me (and I know I'm not alone) that all of these intelligent, special, and still not fully understood animals are in such dire straights as they are. I'm wondering, doesn't anyone have land? On which mini aviaries may be built? I'm not sure we should always be trying to find perfect homes with human beings for some of these birds. They belong in the trees, they shouldn't even be here at all, so why force them to try to conform to human expectations of a pet? Why not let them be birds? Why hope that those who make it through the approval process stick with the lessons learned? We are so different from birds and how we communicate, and it gets hard compared to having a dog. You can have a great heart, great intentions, and still get exhausted and feel at a loss for what to do or how to handle something. Birds are an entirely different animal to learn about. There is a lot of pressure for us to know how to make them happy so they don't pluck. And even if they are well taken care of, they still sometimes pluck. Why? They shouldn't be here! They shouldn't be spending their days clinging to human interaction, depending on that human for a proper understanding of their needs. They should be in the trees with other birds, living a bird's life. It would be great if we could find land, build some aviaries, copy this model maybe http://www.cockatoorescue.org/index_files/Page331.htm Let them live their lives without trying to find those perfect, approval-worthy homes with humans who almost will always have some issue come up that makes it difficult to provide the best for these amazing animals. I love them, I want to rescue every single one I see posted on Facebook, pictured on the website, reading their stories (through a human's eyes), and I cry for them. I'd love to see this organization build toward having a sanctuary for the many birds who would be happy not having a perfect human-bird relationship, without having to constantly need human interaction. They can be happy without us locking them up when we're out of the house, trimming their wings (which corresponds to cutting the feet off of a dog), controlling them to make them conform to us. If I can find land I can afford, I'd do it. Maybe I can, I'm looking, because I want to build a straw-bale house with an aviary attached (like a sun room, with trees and ropes, etc) which connects to an outdoor enclosed aviary for fresh air, etc). I hope to provide a sanctuary, look after them, provide shelter and great foraging under leaf-litter and the shade of a bird-safe tree, things to tear up, and other birds of their own kind to be with, flocks. We don't have to feel restricted to finding homes with proper human individuals who are trying to rescue and not purchase from these awful stores that sell them. We can do a sanctuary! Why not? ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj

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Re: [MickaCoo] Foster care needed for sick feral pigeon
by Elizabeth Y 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Hi- I don't know if this will work or not but regardless, I want to thank you, Clare, for the offer. It is much appreciated! Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: Clare Malone Prichard <malonerous(a)mac.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:46 AM To: mickacoo(a)mickaboo.org Subject: Re: [MickaCoo] Foster care needed for sick feral pigeon If Mike can keep Starbuck until Sunday afternoon/evening next week (August 8), I would be happy to take over from there. I know that's more than a few days, but I'm heading out of town and won't be back until then. Clare On Jul 31, 2010, at 11:56 PM, mickacoo-request(a)mickaboo.org wrote: > Send MickaCoo mailing list submissions to > mickacoo(a)mickaboo.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mickacoo > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mickacoo-request(a)mickaboo.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mickacoo-owner(a)mickaboo.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MickaCoo digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Pigeon in need- FW: bird help! (Elizabeth Y) > 2. Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Pigeon in need- FW: bird help! > (Tammy Azzaro) > 3. Foster/Care needed for Sick Feral Pigeon (C Dickinson) > 4. Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Foster/Care needed for Sick Feral > Pigeon (hollywong(a)juno.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:42:08 -0700 > From: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [MickaCoo] Pigeon in need- FW: bird help! > To: "MickaCoo(a)mickaboo.org" <MickaCoo(a)mickaboo.org>, Mickaboo Rescue > <discuss(a)mickaboo.org> > Message-ID: <4c5498b4.0a64730a.3b6a.07ea(a)mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello- > I can't help this bird and I don't have a foster spot for it but > MickaCoo will pay for vet care if there is someone out there > willing to take this bird in and foster and care for it. > > It may have string-tangled feet. > > Thanks, > > e > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: K S <kelsher99(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:21 PM > To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Fw: bird help! > > > > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> > Subject: bird help! > To: mail(a)mickaboo.org, lostandfound(a)mickaboo.org > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 5:18 PM > > Hi.?My name is Kiersten and I work at Whole Foods in Campbell. We > have an injured pigeon that is currently hanging out in our eating > area outside. It looks like he/she cannot neither really walk nor > fly. I don't want to call animal control, because I don't want the > little guy/gal to be put down...I'd rather him/her be rescued and > helped out. This probably isn't what you guys do, but if you have > any suggestions, please let me know! Thank you for your help. Feel > free to e-mail me back at kiersten.fritzsche(a)wholefoods.com (e-mail > me there, because I don't check this particular account all too > often) or call the number listed below. I'll be here until 4pm > today and pretty much all day tomorrow. If you call, you can ask > for myself or for Chris E., if I'm no longer at work. Thanks again! > ? > Kiersten Fritzsche > Customer Service Supervisor > Whole Foods Market > 1690 South Bascom Avenue > Campbell, CA 95008 > (408) 371-5000 > --0-1906292191-1280607675=4980-- >

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Re: [MickaCoo] Foster care needed for sick feral pigeon
by Clare Malone Prichard 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

If Mike can keep Starbuck until Sunday afternoon/evening next week (August 8), I would be happy to take over from there. I know that's more than a few days, but I'm heading out of town and won't be back until then. Clare On Jul 31, 2010, at 11:56 PM, mickacoo-request(a)mickaboo.org wrote: > Send MickaCoo mailing list submissions to > mickacoo(a)mickaboo.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mickacoo > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mickacoo-request(a)mickaboo.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mickacoo-owner(a)mickaboo.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MickaCoo digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Pigeon in need- FW: bird help! (Elizabeth Y) > 2. Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Pigeon in need- FW: bird help! > (Tammy Azzaro) > 3. Foster/Care needed for Sick Feral Pigeon (C Dickinson) > 4. Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Foster/Care needed for Sick Feral > Pigeon (hollywong(a)juno.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:42:08 -0700 > From: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [MickaCoo] Pigeon in need- FW: bird help! > To: "MickaCoo(a)mickaboo.org" <MickaCoo(a)mickaboo.org>, Mickaboo Rescue > <discuss(a)mickaboo.org> > Message-ID: <4c5498b4.0a64730a.3b6a.07ea(a)mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello- > I can't help this bird and I don't have a foster spot for it but > MickaCoo will pay for vet care if there is someone out there > willing to take this bird in and foster and care for it. > > It may have string-tangled feet. > > Thanks, > > e > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: K S <kelsher99(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:21 PM > To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Fw: bird help! > > > > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> > Subject: bird help! > To: mail(a)mickaboo.org, lostandfound(a)mickaboo.org > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 5:18 PM > > Hi.?My name is Kiersten and I work at Whole Foods in Campbell. We > have an injured pigeon that is currently hanging out in our eating > area outside. It looks like he/she cannot neither really walk nor > fly. I don't want to call animal control, because I don't want the > little guy/gal to be put down...I'd rather him/her be rescued and > helped out. This probably isn't what you guys do, but if you have > any suggestions, please let me know! Thank you for your help. Feel > free to e-mail me back at kiersten.fritzsche(a)wholefoods.com (e-mail > me there, because I don't check this particular account all too > often) or call the number listed below. I'll be here until 4pm > today and pretty much all day tomorrow. If you call, you can ask > for myself or for Chris E., if I'm no longer at work. Thanks again! > ? > Kiersten Fritzsche > Customer Service Supervisor > Whole Foods Market > 1690 South Bascom Avenue > Campbell, CA 95008 > (408) 371-5000 > --0-1906292191-1280607675=4980-- >

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Re: [MickaCoo] [Mickaboo Discuss] Foster/Care needed for Sick Feral Pigeon
by hollywong＠juno.com 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Was this the one from Whole Foods in Campbell? Holly Please note: message attached From: C Dickinson <chezd3(a)yahoo.com> To: Discuss MickaCoo <Mickacoo(a)mickaboo.org>, discuss(a)mickaboo.org Cc: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Mickaboo Discuss] Foster/Care needed for Sick Feral Pigeon Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c54f2359d106569211st02vuc Hello! Today Mike Reed so kindly took the call to pick up a Feral pigeon called Starbuck that was sick and not eating to the vet and is caring for him, but he can not keep him more than a few days. Thanks and much gratitude to Mike for helping Starbuck and MickaCoo too! We are in desperate need of a foster home for Starbuck the feral Pigeon. He would need to be indoors, kept warm, provided meds and feeding until he gets back on his feet. Does anyone have the space and time to help out. Pretty Please Thank you! Cheryl ____________________________________________________________ Cheryl A Reiki Master - www.cheryldickinson.com A MickaCoo Volunteer - www.MickaCoo.org A King Pigeon Rescuer - http://cheryldickinson.com/kings.htm

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Foster/Care needed for Sick Feral Pigeon
by C Dickinson 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

Hello! Today Mike Reed so kindly took the call to pick up a Feral pigeon called Starbuck that was sick and not eating to the vet and is caring for him, but he can not keep him more than a few days. Thanks and much gratitude to Mike for helping Starbuck and MickaCoo too! We are in desperate need of a foster home for Starbuck the feral Pigeon. He would need to be indoors, kept warm, provided meds and feeding until he gets back on his feet. Does anyone have the space and time to help out. Pretty Please Thank you! Cheryl ____________________________________________________________ Cheryl A Reiki Master - www.cheryldickinson.com A MickaCoo Volunteer - www.MickaCoo.org A King Pigeon Rescuer - http://cheryldickinson.com/kings.htm

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Pigeon in need- FW: bird help!
by Elizabeth Y 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

Hello- I can't help this bird and I don't have a foster spot for it but MickaCoo will pay for vet care if there is someone out there willing to take this bird in and foster and care for it. It may have string-tangled feet. Thanks, e -----Original Message----- From: K S <kelsher99(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:21 PM To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: Fw: bird help! --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> Subject: bird help! To: mail(a)mickaboo.org, lostandfound(a)mickaboo.org Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 5:18 PM Hi. My name is Kiersten and I work at Whole Foods in Campbell. We have an injured pigeon that is currently hanging out in our eating area outside. It looks like he/she cannot neither really walk nor fly. I don't want to call animal control, because I don't want the little guy/gal to be put down...I'd rather him/her be rescued and helped out. This probably isn't what you guys do, but if you have any suggestions, please let me know! Thank you for your help. Feel free to e-mail me back at kiersten.fritzsche(a)wholefoods.com (e-mail me there, because I don't check this particular account all too often) or call the number listed below. I'll be here until 4pm today and pretty much all day tomorrow. If you call, you can ask for myself or for Chris E., if I'm no longer at work. Thanks again! Kiersten Fritzsche Customer Service Supervisor Whole Foods Market 1690 South Bascom Avenue Campbell, CA 95008 (408) 371-5000 --0-1906292191-1280607675=4980--

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Re: [MickaCoo] [Mickaboo Discuss] Question re: Craigslist?
by Elizabeth Young 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

MickaCoo volunteers post to craigslist in SF, SJ amd Sac for pigeons and doves, as time and flaggers allow. Flaggers have been less of a problem lately, I believe. (Cheryl D- What's your MickaCoo craigslist posting been like?) And just my opinion- if there is someone available to do it, I think it is important to post to places (like craigslist) where people would go to "get" a bird (whether by buying or through adoption). Ads need to be good, clear, professional and fall within the Terms of Service. Thank you, Priya, for raising the topic. e On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Priya Tuvell <ptuvell(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That's what I was thinking Monica, we don't have to respond to the haters. > People might be interested in getting a bird, and just go straight to > craigslist. If they truly are interested they'd see our post about what we > do and what we offer, we could post for adoption events, or upcoming BBC > classes. Even if they don't adopt from us, at least they'd know how to take > care of the bird they do get. > I don't see how it would be like joining the dirty pigs. There will always > be those ignorant people out there that think rescues are greedy, but so > what? Why should we let them discourage, or supress us? As long as we don't > respond with hateful words/at all, I don't see it being a problem. Hopalong > does it, ARF does it, even county does it. I'm sure they all get hate mail > too, but they're getting the word out there that they have pets that need > homes, and that's what we would be doing too. > > When talking to my friends/coworkers at my vet clinic (including the > doctors) about what Mickaboo does, probably 99% of them didn't know that a > parrot rescue even existed, and they all are animal lovers/work in the > field... 3 of them own birds they bought from Petsmart, but said had they > known about Mickaboo they would've adopted from us. That's 3 conures we > could've gotten out of foster care, and 3 more birds we could've helped. > > I hope I'm not rambling, I figured this is a free way to advertise on a > popular medium and get the word out that we exist, and our birds need homes. > > On Jul 30, 2010 9:40 PM, "monica deza" <monicadeza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, that is true! I have always seen the bunnie rescues advertising their > classes on bunny care on craigslist, They also place some ads near easter > where they tell you to please not to buy a bunny for your kid as an easter > present because bunnies are not as cuddly as they look and your kid will > lose interest on them (that s how I got discouraged from bunnies awhile ago, > when I was still looking for a "cuddly pet" ).....that may be something very > worthwhile for us =). I am sure we will get some people who would like a > free bird, but among them, I am sure there may be some very good people, as > well,, right? With any rescue it is bound to happen we will get people who > just want a free bird, but if we have someone willing to screen those, I > think it s a win win situation, right? > Monica > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:45 PM, k s <kelsin(a)webtv.net> wrote: > > > > Craigslist is a wonderful sourc... > > > > > ------- HOW TO -------------------- > CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ > VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ > HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: > http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj > > > > > ------- HOW TO -------------------- > CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ > VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ > HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: > http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj > -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Products (one of which is on sale right now) that I've begun using for my pet & foster pigeons
by Elizabeth Young 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

Hello- I like to keep things simple and so am not big on additives and supplements but I was introduced to these two products and like them. One- the calcium gluconate- is to help support healthy egg-laying which may sound silly since we're pulling eggs and replacing with fakes but egg-binding and other reproductive issues can be very serious for hens. Good eggs can help them to avoid some of those risks. It may just be a coincidence but I believe my hens have been doing better since I started adding this to the water weekly. (I've also started adding crushed oyster shell to my birds' grit to better support hens' nutritional needs.) The other (which is the one on sale http://vitakingproducts.com/vkspecial1.htm $37 this month, regularly $45) is a "5 in 1" treatment that I use in my birds' water once a month (for 5 days). My coop, which sees so many new birds come through, is especially at risk of common pij ailments like worms, coccidosis, canker, etc. Using it for your flocks might be unnecessary or, perhaps, you may want to consider using it only quarterly or only for new birds that come in. There's another product that has been recommended, Foy's 4 in 1 ( http://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/catalog/6014.html) but it has been out of stock for quite a while (which is why I tried the VitaKing 5 in 1.) In any case- I just ordered mine and wanted to take a minute and share the info with you- something that has been on my To Do list for quite a while. *(Note: I'd prefer to purchase these items from Jedd's because they don't sell birds but they don't carry the calcium gluconate and charge $50 for the 5 in 1.)* * Calcium Gluconate * $7.50 Item # VIT0033 A water soluble product used to prevent calcium Qty: deficiency in hens during breeding and helps in the development of smoother and stronger eggs. During breeding season: use 1 tablespoon per gallon of water twice a week. 500 ml *5 in 1 Treatment * Treatment for coccidiosis, canker, respiratory, $45.00 worms, plus Vita Pro Combo. Combination of Item # ANT0050 amprolium, Ridzol S, tylosine, levamisol, Vita Pro Qty: Combo. Dosage: 2 level teaspoons (15 grams) per gallon of water for 5 days. 200 grams -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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SF Pet Sale Ban on yesterday's Today Show
by Elizabeth Young 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

TODAY™s Natalie Morales reports on a new proposal that would ban pet stores from selling live animals within the city limits of San Francisco in an effort to discourage puppy mills and breeding farms. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38444695#38444695 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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FW: [Mickaboo Discuss] Shark concession
by Elizabeth Y 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Please pass it on! -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Lee <pambudgie(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:08 PM To: rprewett(a)gmail.com; discuss(a)mickaboo.org Subject: [Mickaboo Discuss] Shark concession We have 4 volunteers other than Rachael (our co-coordinator) so far. We need a few more dependable folks to help with a concession stand at Shark games when they are at the hp pavilion. Include your adult family and friends when thinking of possible volunteers! If interested, please email pambudgie(a)yahoo.com. Thx for considering! Sent from my Peek - Pam ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj

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