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Fwd: [Mickaboo Discuss] Mickaboo volunteer opportunity - San Jose Sharks, concession stand - last chance!
by Elizabeth Young 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pamela Lee <pambudgie(a)yahoo.com> Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM Subject: [Mickaboo Discuss] Mickaboo volunteer opportunity - San Jose Sharks, concession stand - last chance! To: discuss(a)mickaboo.org Mickaboo has an opportunity to raise significant $$ by helping to staff the concession stands at the HP Pavilion when the Sharks are playing. We would need a group of at least 6 people who could commit for a large number of games throughout the upcoming season. The volunteers would need to take training (1 or 2 evening classes) and, at games, adhere to a dress code (as well as observe business rules of conduct to be discussed during training). Volunteers for this need not be "Mickaboo volunteers" per se - could be your significant other, your cousin, your friend at work, or other adult willing to help Mickaboo in this unique way. If you are interested in helping, please email me directly at pambudgie(a)yahoo.com<http://us.mc1106.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pambudgie@yahoo.com> . I need to tell the concession stand people by 8/11 whether Mickaboo is in or out, so your reply by 8/10 would be much appreciated. We need just 3-4 more volunteers... - Pam ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Funny parrot video OT: This was way too fun not to share.
by Elizabeth Young 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

8 ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Priya Tuvell <ptuvell(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:30 AM Subject: [Mickaboo Discuss] Slightly OT: This was way too fun not to share. To: General mickaboo discussion <discuss(a)mickaboo.org> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5bPJunuxnY&feature=youtube_gdata Enjoy! Priya Nikki, Baby, and foster Willow, budgies and tiel ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Fwd: [Mickaboo Discuss] Avian Lighting class in Sunnyvale 9/12 at 1:30 at FOLT
by Elizabeth Young 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

I HIGHLY recommend this class to anyone who has indoor birds! You don't have to be a Mickaboo adopter to attend. Share with your friends! Elizabeth ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Redon, Chloe <Chloe.Redon(a)windriver.com> Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:35 PM Subject: [Mickaboo Discuss] Avian Lighting class in Sunnyvale 9/12 at 1:30 at FOLT To: General mickaboo discussion <discuss(a)mickaboo.org> This may not have gone through the first time. If you were on the original CC, you probably got it. Location: For Other Living Things 1261 South Mary Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94087 Date: Sunday September 12th Time: 1:30 - 4:30 pm Please RSVP to me. We would like to have at least 8 people attend. Also, John is about to order some new fixtures and lights that he has not been able to get or find in time to have at the previous classes. We will contact all attendees from the previous classses once we get those fixtures and lights, to discuss some bulk orders and home visits to help you evaluate what you might want. The lights include the general full-spectrum tubes and the black lights for UV-A supplementation. They do not include the halogen spot lights. ========================================================= http://confluence.mickaboo.org/display/MBPublic/Advanced+Bird+Classes * Avian Lighting * Birds are the most visually-oriented of all vertebrates and have one of nature's most sophisticated visual systems. Their vision evolved under the sun - an environment far different from the modern human home. This class will cover how and what birds see, what birds use light for, and how to build an indoor lighting system that simulates the qualities of sunlight. Topics Include: * How and what birds see * What birds use light for * Why home lighting is inadequate * The role of UV in avian vision * Characteristics of the ideal avian light * Current options for avian lighting * Which bulbs to use and which to avoid There is no charge for this class. However, donations to Mickaboo are always welcome. At the class we will have some sample lights. Sunnyvale Class Location: For Other Living Things 1261 South Mary Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94087 Date: Sunday September 12th Time: 1:30 - 4:30 pm ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Baby pigeon found
by Barna Mink 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

Elizabeth and others, I just found a baby pigeon wandering around the the Daly City BART station. He can't yet fly (though he tries) but he can run pretty fast! It took me a while to capture him but I did and put him in my jacket pocket and biked home. I put him in my loft for now, and he went into hiding behind the nest boxes. Will he be fine in the loft, or should I place him in a box with heating mat? Can they eat on their own at this age/size already? Can I expect the other birds to be aggressive towards him? How long until he is able to fend for himself and can he be released then? Thanks, Barna

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Re: [MickaCoo] [Rescuesforparrots] Injured Dove
by couragee25＠gmail.com 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

Yes. Leave him in the carrier. Mickaboo has a sister group now called mickacoo. They often care for them in carriers. Elizabeth is expert. But I am also including coo's email add in sender list. Liz's addy is adopt one. They will help a lot Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone, powered by CREDO Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: Kim Hannah <kjhna(a)att.net> Sender: Rescuesforparrots(a)yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 06:38:22 To: Rescues for Parrots<Rescuesforparrots(a)yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Rescuesforparrots(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [Rescuesforparrots] Injured Dove One of my kitties was very bad yesterday afternoon and caught a Dove (they feed at my outside bird feeders). I got it and have it in a carrier with some sunflower seeds and water. To be honest I did not think he would make it though the night, but he has and seems alert this morning. The problem is, he lost ALOT of feathers, all of his tail feathers for sure, not sure about flight feathers. Now I don't know what to do. I may try and put him in a small cage so I can see if he will perch, but I don't want to stress him out. Any thoughts???

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The MickaCoo T-shirt you LOVE is available!
by Elizabeth Young 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Hello- Many of you have asked how you can get yourself and ALL your loved ones this super cool MickaCoo T-shirt and, thanks to the help of Ailsa and Barna and Heather, I now have the answer for you- It is right HERE: --->>> http://www.cafepress.com/mickaboo/7199150 <<<--- There are ALL kinds of shirt styles (Ts, jerseys, sweatshirts!) and ALL sizes- even the ever-so-elusive SMALL!!! June Bug says, "What are you waiting for? You KNOW you want one!" Yay! -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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MickaCoo volunteers needed for the Solano Stroll event on 9/12 (in Berkeley)
by Elizabeth Young 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Hello- MickaCoo volunteers are needed for the annual Solano Stroll event on 9/12 (in Berkeley) http://www.solanoavenueassn.org/strol.htm Would you like to help? (If you don't have a foster pigeon or dove to bring, we'll make sure somebody there does. Or- we can get you a foster pigeon or dove of course!) e -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Re: [MickaCoo] [Mickaboo Discuss] Fw: Re: Harness
by Elizabeth Young 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

This is a really profound example regarding the difference between parrots and pigeons, both of which are incredibly smart. I've never been so kind or respectful or patient as to give a pigeon this incredible process. I've just picked them up, put pigeon pants on them, let them walk around funny for 2 minutes and then, in some cases, taken them directly to an event. I don't think of myself as cruel or insensitive. They handle it. Really well. I wouldn't and couldn't do it if they weren't moderately OK with it. (There are some pigeons who I'd never put through this- Louie, Charlie, Country- because they just don't want to be close to people nor suffer any foolishness gladly.) But I would never even try to slap a harness on a parrot the way I do with pigeons. I'm writing this not with a lot of clarity on the difference(s) but just to share with you that there is something profoundly different about pigeons and parrots. I have a foster (Hi, Alice!) who has successfully aclimated a rescued adult, unreleasable feral pigeon (Sam) to a flight suit. e On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:49 PM, dorene adams <doreneadams(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm sure Brian wouldn't mind if I shared this info :) > > --- On *Mon, 8/2/10, W. Brian Greger <wbg(a)zozoeng.com>* wrote: > > > From: W. Brian Greger <wbg(a)zozoeng.com> > Subject: Re: Harness > To: doreneadams(a)yahoo.com > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 12:31 PM > > Hey Dorene, > > Yes, I use the Aviator, and yes I have trained birds to use the harness > such that they love to put it on. The instructional video that comes with > the Aviator is flat out the wrong way. Here are the steps using positive > reinforcement. > > 1) Show the harness to the bird at a distance where they remain relax, say > "Treat" and give them a small piece (eaten within 3-5 seconds) of their > favorite treat (Bridge/Treat or B/T). > 2) Next bring the harness closer in small steps, each time B/T > 3) Next have them touch the harness with their beak, B/T > 4) Drape the harness on their body, B/T > > Do the above steps only as quick as your bird will allow, i.e. they remain > calm all the time. You should get to the point where your bird looks > forward to having the harness near them; they will actually want to come > over and touch it. > > 5) Now we have to work on training the loop to go over their head. We > want to start with a large loop say 6-8 inches in diameter. Since the > Aviator loop is meant to be tight around the bird's head, you cannot use it > for this initial loop training. You need to use a piece of rope or > equivalent to create this 6-8 inch loop. > 6) Using the 6"+ loop, put in front of your bird, B/T > 7) Next have your bird point his head towards the loop, B/T. > 8) Next have the bird touch a target on the opposite of the loop to get the > bird to put his head through the loop. B/T > 9) Once you bird readily wants to put his head through the loop, start > making the rope loop smaller and smaller each time having the bird repeat > 5-10 times putting his head through the smaller loop. B/T > 10) Once your bird is very comfortable putting this head through a loop > say twice the size of his head diameter, you can switch to using the Aviator > loop. > 11) Using the Aviator loop, get your bird to put just his beak through the > loop. B/T > 12) Next have your bird put more and more of his/her head through the loop > with it sliding past his eyes to around his neck. B/T. This step is > awkward for your bird. Make sure to pay attention and B/T a lot for all the > little steps. Just practice on having the loop slide on his/her head to the > point of the eyes, B/T, and remove. Do this repeatedly until your bird is > very comfortable with you putting the loop past the eyes to around the neck. > 13) Once you get the loop around the neck, B/T a lot (numerous times) > 14) Next with the loop still around the neck, drape the rest of the harness > on the bird's body. B/T > 15) Now remove the loop from the head by grabbing the loop with both hands > to the left and right of bird's head. Slowly pull the loop off the head. > B/T a lot. Pulling the loop off the head can be very uncomfortable for the > bird since it slides past their eyes and also lifts their head feathers in > the opposite direction in which they natural lay. Don't do this when they > have head pin feathers. > 16) Next we need to work on getting the wing loops on. Start w/o the > harness. Lift one wing up to a comfortable height. B/T > 17) Lift the other wing. B/T > 18) Go back and forth lifting the wings up. B/T. Repeat this over a > number of training sessions > 19) Now put the harness loop around the bird's head, and lift one wing and > put the harness around this one wing. B/T > 20) Lift the other wing and put the harness around this wing. B/T > 21) Now cinch up the front of the harness. B/T a lot for getting to this > point. > 22) Now practice step-up and step-down with harness. B/T > 23) Practice walking around the house and other activities before going > outside. You want your bird to feel very comfortable having a harness on > them. B/T > > Well, I know this is a lot of steps. Depending on your individual bird, > some of these will go quickly others very slowly. It takes about 4-8 weeks > with once a day training to teach this successfully. The goal is not > necessarily to get the harness on your bird but more importantly to make > sure your bird remains relaxed during all the steps along the way. You want > your bird to be a willing participant. If done right, your bird will > eagerly want to get the harness on them. Now that's cooperation! > > Note: Using force anywhere along the way will result in your bird learning > very quickly to avoid the harness. If this happens, it takes much longer to > overcome this bad experience. If at any point you see your bird get > uncomfortable, pause, let them relax, and then regress back to an early step > to help them get over their anxiety. > > Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions. > > Take Care, > Brian > > Hey Brian! > I have a couple feather tether harness's and my birds hate them. On the > list, some were praising the Aviator. They also said you have better > instruction on how to use it. Is this true? I have not purchased it yet as > my last 2 were a total waste of money. I just want to be cautious. Please > let me know when you have a moment. > > Dorene Adams > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > *Aviology Learning Center > *W. Brian Greger > wbg(a)aviologylearning.com > www.aviologylearning.com > 415-227-4450 > > > > > ------- HOW TO -------------------- > CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ > VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ > HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: > http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj > -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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San Matro area/2 large cages for pick up
by Mary Camacho 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Belmont (which is btwn San Mateo and redwood city) 1large macaw cage, and 1 cage 24x24x24 on wheels - anyone??? Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MickaCoo] [Mickaboo Discuss] Moratoriums, possible solution for some species? ALSO: two free cages available
by Elizabeth Y 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

I want to challenge and encourage you all with the information that there have been at least 7 aviaries built (so far) SPECIFICALLY for MickaCoo pigeons and doves with a combined capacity of more than 85 birds (a combination of adopted and fostered) and, while I know parrot aviaries are more complex and expensive, they are certainly possible. Mira Tweti writes about the Rutledge Cockatoo Rescue in Washington in her book, Of Parrots and People and I was very inspired by it. It's what I'll be doing for some parrots someday. -----Original Message----- From: Cal <rprewett(a)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:23 PM To: General mickaboo discussion <discuss(a)mickaboo.org> Subject: Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Moratoriums, possible solution for some species? ALSO: two free cages available Unfortunately, I think it's easier said than done, Kait. We would need to find a volunteer who has the land and is willing to dedicate it to Mickaboo's use. We need to get the materials needed to construct aviaries. We need volunteers to give their time to make the aviaries. Then someone needs to maintain and monitor the flocks we house there. Is this land going to be in a central-enough location that we can have regular volunteers who help care for the many birds? Or are we going to expect the generous land-owner to do that, as well? And do we have enough money/donations to see to necessary vet care for all of those birds, for the rest of their lives? It would certainly be nice! But I think it'd be difficult to pull off. ~Rachael On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Kait Ferrall <kferrall(a)yahoo.com> wrote: ________________________________________________________________________ First -- I have two cages that would be suitable for temporary quarantine cages for a small bird or two. I just purchased a large cage for the three budgies I'm fostering, same size cage as what my two 'tiels are in, and therefore do not need these small cages anymore. Black cage, has an angled roof like a house: 22 x 15 x 22 White cage, rectangular (with flat roof): 23 x 16 x 15 Second -- Here we go: It saddens me (and I know I'm not alone) that all of these intelligent, special, and still not fully understood animals are in such dire straights as they are. I'm wondering, doesn't anyone have land? On which mini aviaries may be built? I'm not sure we should always be trying to find perfect homes with human beings for some of these birds. They belong in the trees, they shouldn't even be here at all, so why force them to try to conform to human expectations of a pet? Why not let them be birds? Why hope that those who make it through the approval process stick with the lessons learned? We are so different from birds and how we communicate, and it gets hard compared to having a dog. You can have a great heart, great intentions, and still get exhausted and feel at a loss for what to do or how to handle something. Birds are an entirely different animal to learn about. There is a lot of pressure for us to know how to make them happy so they don't pluck. And even if they are well taken care of, they still sometimes pluck. Why? They shouldn't be here! They shouldn't be spending their days clinging to human interaction, depending on that human for a proper understanding of their needs. They should be in the trees with other birds, living a bird's life. It would be great if we could find land, build some aviaries, copy this model maybe http://www.cockatoorescue.org/index_files/Page331.htm Let them live their lives without trying to find those perfect, approval-worthy homes with humans who almost will always have some issue come up that makes it difficult to provide the best for these amazing animals. I love them, I want to rescue every single one I see posted on Facebook, pictured on the website, reading their stories (through a human's eyes), and I cry for them. I'd love to see this organization build toward having a sanctuary for the many birds who would be happy not having a perfect human-bird relationship, without having to constantly need human interaction. They can be happy without us locking them up when we're out of the house, trimming their wings (which corresponds to cutting the feet off of a dog), controlling them to make them conform to us. If I can find land I can afford, I'd do it. Maybe I can, I'm looking, because I want to build a straw-bale house with an aviary attached (like a sun room, with trees and ropes, etc) which connects to an outdoor enclosed aviary for fresh air, etc). I hope to provide a sanctuary, look after them, provide shelter and great foraging under leaf-litter and the shade of a bird-safe tree, things to tear up, and other birds of their own kind to be with, flocks. We don't have to feel restricted to finding homes with proper human individuals who are trying to rescue and not purchase from these awful stores that sell them. We can do a sanctuary! Why not? ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj

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