- Media-advisors - mickaboo.org

Interview to be
by Elizabeth Y 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

I've left a VM for the reporter. Along with talking about the ban, I'd like to share how Mickaboo is constantly having to struggle to raise all the money and recruit all the volunteers it takes to do this work. A couple of assumptions/questions I'd appreciate having info on- -Our income is holding steady but expenses are going up- true? Or are donations down? -Our volunteer involvement is holding steady or growing- true? Or are we seeing any downward trend? -How many volunteers do we have? (Including those active this year, let's say.) -How many foster homes do we currently have fostering the ~350 birds? -What is our 'recidivism' rate for returned birds? (to date, I know it's increasing) Thanks in advance for any info you can provide. Elizabeth Y www.RescueReport.org

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Haven't rec'd any messages from Media Advisors
by Elizabeth Young 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Hello- I haven't ever received a message from <media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org> but y'all receive mine I hear. I just subscribed so maybe that will fix it. FYI - I spoke with Michelle and have left a message for the LA Times' reporter. I'll keep you updated with what happens. e -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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URGENT FW: Fwd: [Ticket#0163681] New email to Outreach and PR (Newsletter Feedbac [...])
by Elizabeth Y 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Just getting this now. Shall I call her or would someone else rather? -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Lee <pambudgie(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:15 PM To: adoptkings(a)gmail.com Subject: Fwd: [Ticket#0163681] New email to Outreach and PR (Newsletter Feedbac [...]) For you... Sent from my Peek - Pam ------------------------------------- From: Mickaboo Workflow System<otrs(a)mickaboo.org> To: pambudgie(a)yahoo.com Subject: [Ticket#0163681] New email to Outreach and PR (Newsletter Feedbac [...]) Date: Jul 22, 3:45 PM Hi Pamela, there is a new ticket in "Outreach and PR"! "LaGanga, Maria" <Maria.LaGanga(a)latimes.com> wrote: <snip> > Dear Ms. Young, > > My name is Maria La Ganga, and I'm a reporter for the Los Angeles Times > based in San Francisco. I'm writing a story about the proposed ban on > sales of pets - from cats and dogs through small animals and birds. I > understand that you have spoken about the need for birds to be added to > that sales ban at recent animal commission meetings and I'd love to talk > to you about the issue. I'm reachable best on cell today at 415 515 > 9805. Or I'd be delighted to call you if you can suggest a time and > number. > > Best, > Maria > > Maria L. La Ganga > Los Angeles Times > San Francisco Bureau > 415 515 9805 cell > 415 439 5261 office > maria.laganga(a)latimes.com <snip> To view this ticket, visit: https://mickaboo.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentZoom&TicketID=64101

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Re: [Media-advisors] [Ticket#0163681] Newsletter Feedback
by Mickaboo Companion Bird Rescue 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Please send questions or comments to pr(a)mickaboo.org Thank you for your continued support, Michelle Yesney ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mickaboo is a 501(c)(3) organization, and your contributions are 100% tax deductible. If you have any questions on how you can help us as a volunteer, visit http://mickaboo.org/volunteer.html for more information. ---- Forwarded message from "LaGanga, Maria" <Maria.LaGanga(a)latimes.com> --- From: "LaGanga, Maria" <Maria.LaGanga(a)latimes.com> To: "outreach(a)mickaboo.org" <outreach(a)mickaboo.org> Subject: Newsletter Feedback Date: 2010-07-22 15:45:02 > Dear Ms. Young, > > My name is Maria La Ganga, and I'm a reporter for the Los Angeles Times based > in San Francisco. I'm writing a story about the proposed ban on sales of pets > - from cats and dogs through small animals and birds. I understand that you > have spoken about the need for birds to be added to that sales ban at recent > animal commission meetings and I'd love to talk to you about the issue. I'm > reachable best on cell today at 415 515 9805. Or I'd be delighted to call you > if you can suggest a time and number. > > Best, > Maria > > Maria L. La Ganga > Los Angeles Times > San Francisco Bureau > 415 515 9805 cell > 415 439 5261 office > maria.laganga(a)latimes.com > > ---- End forwarded message --- Dear Ms. Young, My name is Maria La Ganga, and I'm a reporter for the Los Angeles Times based in San Francisco. I'm writing a story about the proposed ban on sales of pets - from cats and dogs through small animals and birds. I understand that you have spoken about the need for birds to be added to that sales ban at recent animal commission meetings and I'd love to talk to you about the issue. I'm reachable best on cell today at 415 515 9805. Or I'd be delighted to call you if you can suggest a time and number. Best, Maria Maria L. La Ganga Los Angeles Times San Francisco Bureau 415 515 9805 cell 415 439 5261 office maria.laganga(a)latimes.com

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Tuesday's True Tale
by Jonathan Harris 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

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Re: [Media-advisors] Pet Store list SF
by Elizabeth Y 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

Marcy (SaveABunny) and 2 of her board members have joined on to Philip's ban work group. Perhaps the Mickaboo effort could be folded in with that and any additional Mickaboo resources could stay focused on pro-Mickaboo stuff such as PR to raise funds, engage volunteers and develop adopters? I'll forward the latest email I have from Philip's workgroup. e -----Original Message----- From: Karen Watkins <karen.watkins(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:09 PM To: 'Mickaboo media advisor team' <media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org>; miratweti(a)parrotpress.net; adoptkings(a)gmail.com Subject: RE: [Media-advisors] Pet Store list SF We started with a list a little longer than this and have two of us working to confirm which ones dont sell pets. I asked for volunteers from our discussion group but didnt get one response. We have to get going on this ASAP. My goal is to visit some of the businesses this weekend and ask for support. Karen M. Watkins From: media-advisors-bounces(a)mickaboo.org [mailto:media-advisors-bounces@mickaboo.org] On Behalf Of SaveABunny(a)aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:45 AM To: media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org; miratweti(a)parrotpress.net; adoptkings(a)gmail.com Subject: [Media-advisors] Pet Store list SF HI All, I think the place to go next is to get the stores that DO NOT sell animals to support the ban and also to show that small business in SF can and do thrive without selling live animals. There are two tabs - one of stores that don't sell pets and one of stores that do. So far, there are more stores that do not sell any animals than those that do. This is the start of the list, but it's probably best for you guys to confirm the info and talk directly with the store owners. Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny www.saveabunny.org www.saveabunny.etsy.com 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life.

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more media contacts
by Elizabeth Young 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

here's a couple more media folks for the list. (Karen- these come from Beth- the lady you met when you did your presentation to the CCC bird club) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Elisabeth Pforr <bethpforr(a)yahoo.com> Date: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:11 PM Subject: Re: A Letter from Mickaboo Founding Director About the Proposed Ban on SF Pet Sales To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> There are two newspapers, both daily/weekly, who have run many of my Letters to Editor and might be willing to do stories on this. I do think that the adoption procedures which Mickaboo has for the betterment of the birds, discourages some people because they think it will take too much time. Here are the papers that Mickaboo might approach: Daniel Borenstein, staff columnist & editorial writer Contra Costa TIMES 925-943-8248 or dborenstein(a)bayareanewsgroup.com Judith Prieve, Editor Brentwood News (Contra Costa TIMES section) jprieve(a)bayareanewsgroup.com Rick Lemyre, Managing Editor, The Brentwood Press (weekly) Rick(a)brentwoodpress.com This paper has a wide circulation including Antioch, Oakley and I believe Pittsburg (they have separate editions) ------------------------------ *From:* Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> *To:* Elisabeth Pforr <bethpforr(a)yahoo.com> *Sent:* Mon, July 19, 2010 4:20:53 PM *Subject:* Re: A Letter from Mickaboo Founding Director About the Proposed Ban on SF Pet Sales p.s. Do you have the contact info of any folks in the media that you could share with us? We're working hard to get the rescue perspective out there in response to all the breeders are doing. We did get a fair amount of editorial space in Friday's (7/16) SF Chronicle (Open Forum section). On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, Beth- > > Be prepared for all kinds of nastiness. People have their panties all > bunched up about "protecting their precious (right to keep selling) > animals" (see flyer attached in two different versions- not sure if you > have Adobe for .pdfs). > > And pasted below is a point-by-point refutation, done by one of Mickaboo's > volunteers, of misinformation that is being slung around. > > Hugs to you and yours- > e > > > *Some Facts about Mickaboo Companion Bird Rescue and the Crisis of > Unwanted Birds* > > A great deal of misinformation is being spread about the growing number of > homeless, unwanted birds in the Bay Area. Since the San Francisco Animal > Welfare Commission first mentioned adding small animals, including birds, to > a proposed ban on the sale of dogs and cats in the city, a coalition of > breeders and pet store owners has attempted to dismiss the problem and to > discredit the organization whose representatives brought it to the > commission's attention, Mickaboo Companion Bird Rescue. In testimony before > the commission, in letters, flyers, and emails, they have repeatedly > distorted and misrepresented the practices and purpose of this nationally > respected rescue group, while denying the existence of any crisis in > unwanted birds and trying to obscure its root causes. > By their account, hardly any homeless or unwanted birds exist here (or > anywhere else in the US). The crisis, they say, is an illusion created by > rescue groups like Mickaboo for our own purposes. Mickaboo's agenda, they > claim, is to profit from the adoption fees we charge; pet stores — which > offer customers greater choice — are "competitors" for bird sales, and > Mickaboo wants to destroy these independent businesses, limiting people's > access to birds. Mickaboo's "high" fees and "burdensome" adoption procedures > are what create the appearance of a crisis, since they discourage adoption > and produce a backlog of unadopted birds. Mickaboo is a radical Animal > Rights group whose ultimate goal is nothing less than the complete > prohibition of pet ownership. > > This narrative is false from start to finish. Some parts actually > contradict others (why should we want to prohibit pet ownership if our goal > is profit from people adopting our birds?). None of it withstands any > comparison with reality. But it is not simply inaccurate, it is dangerously > wrong in diverting attention away from the real, emerging crisis in our city > and around the country. If you care about animal welfare or your rights to > have companion animals, please compare their misstatements with the facts. > > FALSE: There is no crisis of homeless birds. Their numbers in shelters are > insignificant compared to impounded dogs and cats. > THE TRUTH: There is a huge and growing crisis of unwanted birds. It has > taken four centuries for the numbers of homeless dogs and cats to reach the > levels they have in America today. The explosion of domestic parrot > populations (now estimated at some 40–50 million in US homes) has occurred > only in the past 20 years, driven by the rise of large-scale, industrial > breeders and pet retailers in the 1990s. As people who purchased birds on > impulse confront the difficulties and cost of caring for these complex, > demanding, essentially wild animals, more and more are relinquishing them, > sometimes illegally releasing or simply abandoning them. Most of these birds > never reach shelters, dying from untreated illnesses and neglect at home or > from starvation or predation when released. The problem has worsened during > the current housing crisis and recession, as people losing their homes are > simply abandoning birds, sometimes entire aviaries, at an alarming rate. > Craigslist is filled with ads for unwanted birds. Mickaboo's annual intake > numbers have gone from about 35 in 2002 to a projected 500 this year. If > that growth rate continues, the number will reach 5,000 by 2018. Rescue > groups and shelters cannot absorb such growth. Mickaboo currently has 375 > rescued birds needing homes, and our volunteers' space to house them is at > capacity. Recently we have been forced to impose a moratorium on the intake > of cockatiels, although we know of many who need our help. All the while, > more birds continue to be bred and sold. > > FALSE: Mickaboo hates pet stores and wants to drive them out of business. > THE TRUTH: Mickaboo hates the mistreatment of animals; we do not hate pet > stores. We don't want to ruin businesses, especially small, independent > ones; we just want them to stop selling commercially bred birds. There are > other business models pet stores can follow that don't involve selling bred > animals. In the Bay Area we have both chains (Pet Food Express) and > independent stores (For Other Living Things, Sunnyvale) that provide goods > and services for companion animals, as well as pet stores (Andy's, San Jose) > that sell only re-homed animals). We regret the effect banning bird sales > might have on the income of some pet stores and their employees, many of > whom genuinely love animals. However, the issue cannot be reduced simply to > the economic interests of these stores. So long as pet stores promote birds > as easy-care or "starter" pets, they will create unrealistic expectations, > frustrated owners and countless miserable, unwanted birds. Moreover, even > the most responsible pet sellers — stores that treat their birds well and > provide good information and guidance to prospective buyers — are supplied > by and support large breeding operations that rival puppy mills in life-long > cruelty toward their captive breeding animals. Such extreme mistreatment of > highly intelligent, emotionally sensitive creatures cannot be justified, > tolerated, or supported, even indirectly. > > FALSE: Mickaboo earns profits through its adoption fees. > THE TRUTH: Mickaboo is a 501(c)3 organization, run entirely by volunteers. > It does not make money on anything, nor does anyone who works for it. Even > without physical facilities or paid employees, the cost of our rescue work > is staggering. Many of our rescued birds need expensive and prolonged > medical treatment, and Mickaboo spends on average more than $10,000 per > month for veterinary care. Adoption fees defray a small fraction (less than > 15%) of those costs. The rest comes mainly from donations and few, small > fund-raisers. Our finances are a matter of public record. What the records > do not show are the many additional costs that Mickaboo's volunteers absorb > themselves — food, transportation and toys for their foster birds — to say > nothing of the countless hours of skilled and loving labor they give to > emotional rehabilitation and socialization, getting once neglected and > abused animals to trust people again. > > FALSE: Mickaboo's "high" adoption fees and "burdensome" procedures > discourage adoption. > THE TRUTH: Mickaboo's adoption fees are in most cases less than what the > same bird would cost if purchased from a pet store or breeder. Our adoption > procedure requires people to take a basic bird-care class, fill out a > questionnaire, be interviewed over the phone, and have a home visit. We do > not consider these requirements burdensome, in light of the past treatment > some of our birds have suffered, the investment we have made in > rehabilitating them, and the lifelong commitment we make to their welfare. > Nor should anyone who is serious about having birds in their home, given the > long-term responsibilities their care demands. We are not trying to put up > barriers to adoption. Our goal is to educate adopters and to be sure they > are able and willing to provide safe, healthy, and permanent homes for our > birds. Pet stores are only required by law to provide a one-page care sheet > (often containing out-of-date or erroneous information) to send home with > the animal. Certainly it is easier to walk into a pet shop and buy a bird > than it is to adopt from us or any other reputable rescue organization. But > it is exactly that kind of impulse buying we want to discourage. A person > too impatient to go through an adoption process is probably not patient > enough to care for a parrot. Someone unwilling to pay a modest adoption fee > is not likely to spend the money that avian veterinary care will cost. > > FALSE: Mickaboo refuses to work with pet stores on finding solutions. > THE TRUTH: Besides working with most of the Bay Area's animal shelters, > Mickaboo cooperates with several local stores, including Pet Food Express, > Andy's Pet Shop in San Jose, and For Other Living Things in Sunnyvale, > holding our public classes and adoption fairs at their facilities. We are > grateful to anyone else trying to help animals in need, and we will be happy > to work with other pet stores as soon as they stop selling live, bred > animals. It is not helpful to our cause to promote businesses that continue > to sell commercially bred birds, thereby creating the tragic problems we are > working so hard to solve. > > FALSE: Mickaboo is ideologically opposed to people having pets and wants > to outlaw it. > THE TRUTH: Mickaboo was founded and is run entirely by people who love > animals and have many in our own homes. We could not devote the hundreds of > hours and thousands of dollars to rescue and rehabilitation work if we > didn't. Our concerns are simply that people make informed choices about > acquiring birds and be committed to giving them the attention and care they > need. We support responsible pet keeping in many concrete ways. MIckaboo's > Web site offers a wealth of information on bird behavior, health and care > for the public to read and download. Mickaboo teaches free classes in basic > bird care about every two weeks at locations around the Bay Area. We also > offer classes on more advanced topics ranging from foraging to lighting to > understanding bird body language. And every person who fosters or adopts a > bird from Mickaboo automatically becomes part of an active, Web-based > discussion group providing support, expert, personal advice, and sometimes > emergency help to volunteers and their birds. Mickaboo needs more caring, > responsible people, not fewer, to join us in adopting and fostering homeless > birds — ours as well as the many beyond our reach. > > If you are interested in adopting or fostering a bird or would like to > attend one of our classes, volunteer or donate, please visit > http://www.mickaboo.org/ or phone 650-450-9104. > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Elisabeth Pforr <bethpforr(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > >> I agree strongly that there are far too many unwanted birds in pet shops >> and at breeders' locations. My heart (like yours) goes out to these poor, >> innocent creatures with wings. I am unsure how the Contra Costa Avian >> Society feels re this. There was a petition at the June mtg but I did not >> hear the explanation. I will take a copy of this to Friday 7/30 mtg and >> make my opinion known. Some of the members ARE breeders and I do not know >> their thoughts yet about this. The mtg this next time will be at the >> Concord Water Dept. mtg rooms on Concord Ave. if you know anyone who might >> want to attend. It will be a toy-making mtg. using whatever we can to make >> new ones for ourselves. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Wed, July 7, 2010 1:21:18 PM >> *Subject:* A Letter from Mickaboo Founding Director About the Proposed >> Ban on SF Pet Sales >> >> *Hello-* >> ** >> *I wanted to share with you this letter from one of my most respected >> heroes.* >> >> >> My name is Tammy Azzaro. I am a founder and director of Mickaboo >> Companion Bird Rescue and a Registered Veterinary Technician in California. >> Mickaboo is an all-volunteer non profit bird rescue, rehabilitation and >> rehoming organization. We take in the abandoned, unwanted and surrendered >> birds from individuals, pet stores, shelters and veterinarians when the >> birds need medical care, socialization and placement. >> >> I wanted to write and express my support of the proposed ban on pet sales >> in San Francisco. >> >> San Francisco has always been at the forefront of positive change so I am >> thrilled at the prospect of "my" city adopting such a progressive policy. >> >> I know there have been a lot of arguments from local pet store owners who >> will be financially impacted if this ban takes effect. However, the >> positive economic impact this ban will have on government run shelters which >> often end up with unwanted and/or abandoned pets can not be overlooked. It >> will definitely have a positive impact on our rescue intake numbers. When I >> started Mickaboo Rescue nearly 15 years ago, we were dealing with >> approximately 25-30 birds per year going through our system. Now, we have >> hundreds of homeless birds and in 2009 we took in over 400 birds, most of >> which originally came from pet stores. Also, at that time, it was very rare >> for us to get in the larger species like Macaws, African Greys and Amazon >> Parrots. Now, due to the rampant availability of these species at pet >> stores driving their monetary value down and the ease with which anyone can >> purchase one through a pet store setting, we have hundreds of those larger >> species coming in annually as well. Many of these birds have been neglected >> or abused to the point of excessive screaming, aggression and self >> mutilation. You can see the sheer number of homeless birds in our >> organization alone on our website: www.mickaboo.com >> >> Many people know about the horrors of puppy mills, the negative effects >> such places can have on the socialization and medical health of dogs and the >> huge over-population problem most California cities have with cats and >> dogs. However, not many people see bird over-population as a problem. I >> can attest to the fact that bird over-population IS a problem and is getting >> worse every year. Mickaboo works through a network of dedicated foster >> homes and we can not keep up with the constant need for homes. We have to >> prioritize the sick, injured and shelter birds and we have to regularly turn >> away healthy, well socialized birds due to lack of space in our foster >> system. If this law passes, it will stop the flood that has been building >> in San Francisco over the past decade. If we do not do something to protect >> these special animals, we will see more and more end up at shelters and >> being euthanized due to lack of space. Although birds are smaller than most >> dogs and cats and take up less space at shelters, their care requires more >> specialized knowledge so the pool of potential homes is smaller. Also, >> their life-span is much longer than most other pet animals so that makes it >> much more difficult to secure them a lifelong home. If SF adopts this new >> ban, I can assure you there will still be plenty of birds in the shelter and >> rescue systems for folks who want to add a feathered friend to their >> family. We can provide data that shows the number of birds we have >> available for adoption now vs. just several years ago to show the staggering >> increase which will only get worse over time. >> >> As a long-time rescue worker, bird lover and San Francisco native, I ask >> that you please support the pet store sales ban. This ban does NOT mean 'no >> pets' for San Franciscans---what it means is 'homes' for those we already >> have in our shelter systems. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Tammy Azzaro, RVT >> Director, Mickaboo Companion Bird Rescue >> >> >> *Please join us Thursday, July 8th at 5:30pm in San Francisco for the >> Animal Welfare Commission meeting, which will be held at: >> >> San Francisco City Hall >> >> 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place, Room 408 >> >> San Francisco CA >> >> Your presence to support the well-being of all rescue animals as well as >> companion/pet birds will be greatly appreciated. ALL ARE WELCOME - SF >> RESIDENCY IS NOT REQUIRED.* >> >> >> Click here to read the story of how Tammy started Mickaboo<http://www.mickaboo.com/newsletter/jan10/mickandfoundingmickaboo.html> >> >> Thank you. >> e >> >> >> -- >> Elizabeth >> >> Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. >> www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> >> www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 >> >> > > > -- > Elizabeth > > Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. > www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> > www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 > -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Fwd: [Mickaboo Discuss] Avian Rescue Group in Concord
by Elizabeth Young 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

see highlighted point below. i think what Mike is saying is true for many. i think the Mickaboo Admins team is waaay out front of the Mickaboo General Discussion group with who is saying what and why regarding the ban, etc. i'd bet there are quite a few of our Mickaboomers that don't support the ban (which is fine- free country) but think it's important that our best communication be to our own members. i think everything we share with press and blogs and such should be shared with the members first so they know where leadership is at and aren't learning about Mickaboo from outside. is Jonathan's piece ready for sharing? or ??? e ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <MReedOAK(a)aol.com> Date: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Avian Rescue Group in Concord To: discuss(a)mickaboo.org Maybe I am dense. Feel free to just respond to me if you want but I really have no idea what you mean by they are what some of our detractors accuse of us of being. Mike Reed In a message dated 7/19/2010 5:48:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 1217(a)vhrovat.org writes: > Maybe we could check in to this organization in Concord > when we need to turn birds away? > Avian Rescue Corporation (ARC) > http://www.avianrescuecorp.org/ We already have. They are what some of our detractors accuse us of being. --VH ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Pet Store list SF
by SaveABunny＠aol.com 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

HI All, I think the place to go next is to get the stores that DO NOT sell animals to support the ban and also to show that small business in SF can and do thrive without selling live animals. There are two tabs - one of stores that don't sell pets and one of stores that do. So far, there are more stores that do not sell any animals than those that do. This is the start of the list, but it's probably best for you guys to confirm the info and talk directly with the store owners. Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny _www.saveabunny.org_ (http://www.saveabunny.org/) _www.saveabunny.etsy.com_ (http://www.saveabunny.etsy.com/) 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life.

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Fwd: Working Group Update July 21 11AM
by Elizabeth Young 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

nice piece from San Mateo SPCA Prez- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/white/detail?blogid=102&entry_id=67533 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:06 AM Subject: Working Group Update July 21 11AM To: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Cc: Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com>, saveABunny(a)aol.com, Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>, Kim Flaherty <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net>, Rose Harris <harris.rose(a)att.net>, "Elliot M. Katz DVM" <emk(a)idausa.org> I looked this up this AM http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/white/detail?blogid=102&entry_id=67533 I thought it was very well written. You may have seen it already. Philip On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Philip Gerrie wrote: I will call Ed Buck in LA about sunsetting time allowance and the small business perspective. He's been very helpful. He originally introduced in West Hollywood the dog and cat ban. I don't remember if the issue came up there. Philip Begin forwarded message: *From: *"Elliot Katz" <emk(a)idausa.org> *Date: *July 20, 2010 8:20:35 AM PDT *To: *"'Philip Gerrie'" <glassgerrie(a)earthlink.net> *Subject: **FW: Working Group Update July 20 6:25 AM* *Reply-To: *<emk(a)idausa.org> Hi Philip, you might want to call the LA people and get their input. Did this issue come up there? *From:* Philip Gerrie [mailto:glassgerrie@gmail.com <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> ] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:27 AM *To:* Rose Harris *Cc:* Elizabeth Young; Kim Flaherty; Pam Hemphill; Anna Williams; Elliot M. Katz DVM *Subject:* Working Group Update July 20 6:25 AM I've expanded this list a bit. Let me know if anyone does not want to be on it. I could use some help in this Small Business Commission angle. It sounds like Rick, of the Animal Company, thinks his business interests should trump animal welfare concerns. Are their precedents to cite?? Sally is out of town so I'll be going. Also what are suggested phase-out times if the ban is approved for existing pet stores?? One year? Two years? Three years? more?? Philip The Small Business Commission has been contacted by a small business bird retailer who requested that we become involved in the discussion over prohibiting the sales of animals in San Francisco. The Legislation and Policy Committee has requested an information only presentation by the pet store owner at its July 26 meeting and we will welcome a presentation by a representative of your department and/or the Commission of Animal Control and Welfare. These presentations are for information only and will allow the Committee to be better informed on this issue. We are asking that presentations be limited to 7-10 minutes in length. No action will be taken by the Committee at this time. The meeting will be held on Monday, July 26 from 5:00-7:00pm at City Hall in room 400. This will be the second item on the calendar, though the first item may take some time. Unfortunately, we cannot make a prediction on what time it will be called, other than our intent is to stay within the scheduled meeting time. Information that the Committee hopes to receive from your department includes background on the proposal, reasoning behind amendments (our understanding is that it began as prohibiting the sale of cats and dogs,) along with a timeline. If a representative of your team is able to make a presentation, please put them in contact with me and I can work with them on any final arrangements or logistics. Regards, Chris Chris Schulman Senior Policy Analyst / Commission Secretary Office of Small Business City Hall, Room 110 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: 415.554-6408 Fax: 415.558-7844 On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Philip Gerrie wrote: Rebecca intends to talk, one to one, with the Mayor soon so he can understand what the concerns and issues are. That should help. Pam and I met with 11 of the twelve Supervisor's aides or interns today. Many Supervisors, we were told, care a lot about animals, witness the recent Meatless Monday resolution, first passed in SF and taken up in cities all over the world. That all seemed open to what we would be proposing. Several asked if we had a sponsor yet, needing at least one Supervisor to actually take it on. We don't and won't until we vote on something. Several had had conversations already with Rebecca. All in all, better than we had hoped after having been flooded, in some cases, with PIJAC and NAIA inspired e-mails. http://www.pijac.org/petinformation/breakingnews.asp and http://www.capwiz.com/naiatrust/issues/alert/?alertid=15168701&type=CU. The aides suggested being specific to what we propose versus just "pets" for instance. I am unclear of whether to propose banning all birds or just of the parrot species along the lines of HSUS. Another concern was when should go into effect. Immediately for dogs and cats. 3-6 months for 'smalls' and ?? (three years) more? less?for the birds. Thoughts? PIJAC is interesting in that they oppose anything and everything having to do with legislating selling animals. They oppose banning a sale of pythons and constrictors as they take over the Everglades. Any further comments or reflections Pam? Loose lips sink ships, so be wary of forwarding this around. Philip On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:49 PM, LDY wrote: Politics make me crazy. Such a shame that the Director of ACC can't just tell the public what's right and best for the animals. This is her job??? We live in such a sad world. L-Danyielle --- On *Mon, 7/19/10, Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>* wrote: From: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: working group? To: "Philip Gerrie" <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Cc: harris.rose(a)att.net, "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net> Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:26 AM Even if ACC is not in a position to speak publicly for the ban, I think now is a really opportune time for them to express their concerns about the plight of shelter pets- the numbers, the need for volunteers, for donations (for themselves and the rescues that support the animals- Mickaboo's expenses are going ever higher and we're struggling!), for spaying and neutering, for thinking about shelter pets... It seems like they could speak to the problems on the animals' behalf even if not committing themselves to the ban as a solution. e On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com>> wrote: ACC is supportive. Rebecca suggested that Supervisors can call her and she'll tell them her position. Since she's a mayoral appointee, and the mayor isn't sure where he stands currently on this, she can't go public public but more behind the scenes at the moment. Pam was at the same meeting with Rebecca and perhaps confirm what I heard? Philip On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:31 AM, LDY wrote: Yes, ACC's verbal input is vital. They were very instrumental in getting a cat declawing ban passed in SF last Winter. How can we get them to speak out? Actually I don't know how much they support this proposal, I would hope all of it. L-Danyielle --- On *Sun, 7/18/10, Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com> >* wrote: From: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: working group? To: "Philip Gerrie" <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> >, harris.rose(a)att.net <http://mc/compose?to=harris.rose@att.net> Cc: "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=pam.hemphill@gmail.com>>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net<http://mc/compose?to=kflaherty@pacbell.net> > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 9:14 AM A thought/question- I know that SFACC really appreciates all that the rescue organizations do to keep animals out of the shelter; to help care for, socialize and ease their time while in the shelter; and to save them from being euthanized when their time is up. I'm wondering what they have to say about all this and think their voices have particular importance in this discussion. I think that SFACC could generate considerable support for their own needs, for adopting rather than buying/breeding, and for the ban by speaking up more right now. Everybody in the SF "pet world" has an incredible opportunity to be heard right now- this story is nationwide- and I think the rescue folks can use this to help rescue animals no matter what happens with this ban. I'm happy to share this with SFACC leadership directly if that would be a more appropriate approach. Thanks, Elizabeth ------------------------------ *From: *Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:31 PM *To: *harris.rose(a)att.net <http://mc/compose?to=harris.rose@att.net> *Cc: *Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com>>; Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=pam.hemphill@gmail.com>>; Kim Flaherty <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net<http://mc/compose?to=kflaherty@pacbell.net> > *Subject: *Re: working group? I'm planning to talk with Supervisors or, more likely, their aides, Monday. i'll have a better sense of what to do after that I hope. Philip On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:31 AM, LDY wrote: I'm interested in helping. What would it involve? Maybe we have to meet to figure that out? L-Danyielle --- On *Fri, 7/16/10, Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> >* wrote: From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> > Subject: working group? To: "Elizabeth Young" <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com> > Cc: "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=pam.hemphill@gmail.com>>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net<http://mc/compose?to=kflaherty@pacbell.net>>, "Rose Harris" <harris.rose(a)att.net<http://mc/compose?to=harris.rose@att.net> > Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 10:25 PM Hi Elizabeth et al, ( In lists of persons, *et al.* (an abbreviation of *et alii*, meaning "and others")) I think it would be good to identify who wants to be active in making this ban happen. Once identified, meet to strategize, etc before the next ACWC meeting. I can only represent myself and not speak for the Commission. We could do much of it via e-mail. I plan to be going to City Hall monday to visit all the Supervisors about this as they have been bombarded by those against the ban. It looks like PIJAC is a driving force. A David & Goliath scenario? The minutes from the last meeting will be helpful. They will only be available, though, when posted on the ACWC website. Pam, please let me know if you think I am overstepping in any way doing this. Thank you, Philip -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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