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Re: [Media-advisors] Alternatives to the Ban Meeting
by Pamela Lee 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

So does this sound like we should not be recruiting him for a grooming clinic? Sent on the go from my Peek ------------------------------------- Tammy Azzaro<tammyazzaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: yep. remember when his shop burned down? i got my first bird from him (not mick---birdeeboy, i got him for my husband in the 80's)---talk about starting from the bottom... tammy On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:21 PM, Mary Long wrote: > Small world! I remember Jamie from the early 1980's running > Spectrum bird shop on Fillmore (near Japan Town) in SF. As I would > be coming in the door on a Saturday afternoon, he was usually > sitting at the register with a young parrot on his shoulder, > cigarette in one hand and a glass of beer in the other. > > > --- On Fri, 8/6/10, Tammy Azzaro <tammyazzaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Tammy Azzaro <tammyazzaro(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Media-advisors] Alternatives to the Ban Meeting > To: "Mickaboo media advisor team" <media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org> > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 8:12 PM > > ...not to mention that the other attendee, jamie yorck, was a > client at the law office where i worked for 11 years. that law > office speciallized in criminal law. > i saw jamie a lot. > ~tammy > > On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Mary Long wrote: > >> Hummmmm, Dr. Galvin, Tony Silva - PR guy hasn't done his homework >> and isn't doing such a great job so far with damage control...it's >> good for us he lets his clients keep talking and going on the record. >> >> Awhile back I shared the online transcript re: Dr. Galvin's court >> proceedings? I can't find it and perhaps someone could forward to >> Elizabeth. >> >> > > Tammy Azzaro > Mickaboo? > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > Tammy Azzaro Mickaboo?

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Fwd: Alternatives to the Ban Meeting
by Elizabeth Young 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

I'm back and yes, I do need a bourbon. Make it a double. My notes are incomplete because sometimes I was just too dumbstruck to keep writing. I'm going to share those bits that I did get down that I think bear follow up. Vinny's reconnaissance on Central Pet is exactly the sort of outcome I hope will come from these notes as even typing them is perpetuating great feelings of ickiness. Jonathan- I invite and encourage you to correct me where I misstate. Yes- it is Central Pet and Rick works closely with them, says they're the biggest distributor in the country and yes, he did offer that he was sure they'd welcome us and yes, I think we should take him up on that offer. Teresa's idea which you will likely hear more about from the Commission is called SPARC (Small Pet Adoption Rescue Coalition). She advocates for a "separation of church and state" meaning that to have pet sellers involved in the Coalition would be a conflict of interest. Thinks that rescues, shelters, ACCs and vets should be the determiners of the education and certification process and that pet sellers should agree to only sell to SPARC certified customers. Rick would be happy to sell to SPARC certified customers in addition to his regulars. (He's been working with birds since 1969 and I would say that his pride is very wounded that Mickaboo does not have more respect for his bird prowess.) Sally is very interested in this and really likes it because it is a compromise and neither side gets everything they want (rescues don't get the ban, sellers have to sell to the certified). It would be an improvement over current situation. The way this would help with breeding is that it would reduce supply. I offered my hope that SF will pass the ban and become a Sanctuary City that rehomes unwanted pets rather than continues to breed and euthanize them. We all agree that education is the key and I raised the issue that education is only as good as it is meaningful- handing out a flyer isn't enough and it is only working if you are seeing attrition- potential customers walking away saying, Oh, I didn't know that! I asked what percentage of customers pet sellers are willing to lose to weed out irresponsible pet buyers but it went unanswered. Jonathan recounted his experience where a bird buyer unhappy with his previous purchase swapped for another bird and was sent home with no more education but hearty guarantees of future success and a quick forgetting of the cockatiel he had returned. Rick, who loves to edutain with anecdotes, rushed to dismiss it as an example that the world isn't perfect. Rick thinks adoption fairs at his store would solve everything. (He considers them education while I consider them PR.) Marcy would place rescue rabbits in pet stores IF they weren't selling unaltered animals. Mickaboo never spoke to the adoption fair issue at all. I got the feeling that Teresa's "separation of church and state" (pet sellers and rescuers) and the conflict of interest inherent in pet selling made sense to a majority of the folks there. Pet sellers feel very pleased with their practices and don't perceive themselves to be a part of the problem. I pointed out that there is a problem and Mickaboo and all the other rescues are the evidence of that problem. All us rescue folks, including SFACC, agreed that we would LOVE to be put out of business. I encouraged the pet sellers, who were bragging about the rehoming they do, to do more. I suggested Rick post a sign saying that he is willing to rehome unwanted birds. He didn't seem to like the idea. IMPORTANT REALIZATION: SFACC separates birds out and so when, as today, Kat quoted that "20 parrots came into ACC in 2009" they are leaving out the "51 parakeets" and "2 budgerigars" and and and! She and I agreed that those categories need attention and that they need to get help from experts. I'd LOVE to connect a Mickaboo volunteer with Deputy Director Kat Brown to get help on that right away. I see birds mislabled there all the time and that's another issue- confirming species before labeling and then reporting numbers in ways that are understood by all. Kat also really wants the numbers of animals sold from pet stores and they weren't comfortable with that at all. Rick said, What's next, you want to see my checkbook? And I said, Yes, in fact you offered to open your books for comparison with Mickaboo and it's in the 7/8 SF ACWC meeting minutes. So then I put out my hand until he shook it that we would open our books and share with each other. I realize that I am not authorized to do any such thing but, if you're interested, Rick shook in front of lots of witnesses. He is scandalized that Mickaboo has taken in "$131K in donations". Peter, Dana Strome's husband, feels that the Florida sanctuary that he and Dana are working with that is reintroducing parrots into the wild as well as the Indonesian island that is being set aside for Moluccan's will be a big help for the bird crisis that doesn't exist (my words). I asked for the name of the project and the best he could offer was "Tony Silva near Miami" and he said he'd have Dana get the name to me. Marcy took a stand of solidarity with Mickaboo saying that she wouldn't put her rabbits in Rick's store (which she says she'd love to do) unless Mickaboo was in support. She said, "I can't work with stores that are contemptuous of rescue." Kat is going to email Rick the findings about PETCO that involve all the dead birds in the freezer and so that should be available to us to if we want it. Though it may be the same document which Maggie has shared with me and I'm attaching here. At the 7/8 meeting, Rick said his vet was Alex Herman. His wife Ellen said Dr. Galvin. Today, at the meeting, Rick said that his file was the thickest one that his vet had in "*his* office" which I took to mean Dr. Galvin's. Jaime (the guy that was in the Parrots of Telegraph Hill movie) and who used to have a bird store in SF offered to do wing and nail clips for us and I told him that we use avian vets and techs but are always looking for more help and volunteers. His number is 516-0798. Rick has hired Singer Associates, Inc, Public Affairs & Corporate Communications and his Account Manager Christy Seto was there. She didn't sit close enough to kick him though so I'm not sure if he's getting his money's worth. Who's coming to the 8/12 SF ACWC meeting? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm typing on my phone so will be brief- > > -Teresa of Cavy rescue & Marcy of SaveABunny were both there and very > constructive. > > -Jonathan and I were there repping for Mickaboo and birds > > -Rick from Animal Co & his hired PR Singer Assoc. and Claudia from Basic > Bird in Berkeley and Jaime (used to own SF bird store) and Dana's (Wing > Foundation) husband Peter were there as well as Philip, Pam & Sally from SF > ACWC and Kat from SFACC. > > Sellers want to host adoption fairs at their stores, don't feel themselves > to be a part of the problem at all. Feel Kaytee would welcome us into their > facilities (Pet Central headquartered in Walnut Creek). > > Teresa suggests an education/certification program for pet buyers like > getting a license before buying a pet and stores agreeing to only sell to > certified buyers. Rick doesn't want constraint. > > Marcy standing in solidarity with rescues, won't allow Rick to house her > rescue rabbits unless Mickaboo is in agreement. > > All agree education is key, no one agrees on what that means. Pet sellers > are already doing education and see homeless animals as somebody else's > problem (my words). > > Nothing decided, feel like I need a shower. > > If I had to call it, I'd say Philip & Pam are leaning ban and Sally looking > for a compromise. > > Elizabeth Y > www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> > -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Alternatives to the Ban Meeting
by Elizabeth Y 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

I'm typing on my phone so will be brief- -Teresa of Cavy rescue & Marcy of SaveABunny were both there and very constructive. -Jonathan and I were there repping for Mickaboo and birds -Rick from Animal Co & his hired PR Singer Assoc. and Claudia from Basic Bird in Berkeley and Jaime (used to own SF bird store) and Dana's (Wing Foundation) husband Peter were there as well as Philip, Pam & Sally from SF ACWC and Kat from SFACC. Sellers want to host adoption fairs at their stores, don't feel themselves to be a part of the problem at all. Feel Kaytee would welcome us into their facilities (Pet Central headquartered in Walnut Creek). Teresa suggests an education/certification program for pet buyers like getting a license before buying a pet and stores agreeing to only sell to certified buyers. Rick doesn't want constraint. Marcy standing in solidarity with rescues, won't allow Rick to house her rescue rabbits unless Mickaboo is in agreement. All agree education is key, no one agrees on what that means. Pet sellers are already doing education and see homeless animals as somebody else's problem (my words). Nothing decided, feel like I need a shower. If I had to call it, I'd say Philip & Pam are leaning ban and Sally looking for a compromise. Elizabeth Y www.RescueReport.org

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Parrot Chronicles article about Mickaboo adoption fair at Petco
by Vincent J. Hrovat 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

I mentioned this article a while back when it looked as though Parrot Chronicles had removed it from their web page. They had not removed it after all, but had rearranged archived content such that my saved URL no longer worked. The current URL is: http://www.parrotchronicles.com/features/petco/petco.htm For what it is worth, this is proof that Mickaboo has been willing to work with pet stores in the past, and that Petco has at least considered "eventually phasing out its small animal sales in favor of hosting adoption fairs." I am going to save this off in PDF format as well in case they ever do really remove it. Vincent J. Hrovat

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Re: [Media-advisors] Alternatives to the Ban Meeting
by Pamela Lee 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

Really nice and concise for phone typing! Thanks again for getting into the thick of things and staying there. Maybe you'll grow up to be a lobbyist for environmental / animal welfare groups! Sent from my Peek - Pam ------------------------------------- Elizabeth Y<adoptkings(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm typing on my phone so will be brief- -Teresa of Cavy rescue & Marcy of SaveABunny were both there and very constructive. -Jonathan and I were there repping for Mickaboo and birds -Rick from Animal Co & his hired PR Singer Assoc. and Claudia from Basic Bird in Berkeley and Jaime (used to own SF bird store) and Dana's (Wing Foundation) husband Peter were there as well as Philip, Pam & Sally from SF ACWC and Kat from SFACC. Sellers want to host adoption fairs at their stores, don't feel themselves to be a part of the problem at all. Feel Kaytee would welcome us into their facilities (Pet Central headquartered in Walnut Creek). Teresa suggests an education/certification program for pet buyers like getting a license before buying a pet and stores agreeing to only sell to certified buyers. Rick doesn't want constraint. Marcy standing in solidarity with rescues, won't allow Rick to house her rescue rabbits unless Mickaboo is in agreement. All agree education is key, no one agrees on what that means. Pet sellers are already doing education and see homeless animals as somebody else's problem (my words). Nothing decided, feel like I need a shower. If I had to call it, I'd say Philip & Pam are leaning ban and Sally looking for a compromise. Elizabeth Y www.RescueReport.org

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Fwd: [Ticket#0164685] Moved ticket in ">OTRS_CUSTOMER_QUEUE<" queue! (New voicemail from [...])
by Pamela Lee 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

Sounds like this is about the ban - may I ask someone to listen and handle? Sent from my Peek - Pam ------------------------------------- From: Mickaboo Workflow System<otrs(a)mickaboo.org> To: pambudgie(a)yahoo.com Subject: [Ticket#0164685] Moved ticket in ">OTRS_CUSTOMER_QUEUE<" queue! (New voicemail from [...]) Date: Aug 5, 9:23 PM Hi, Sandy Gleason" moved a ticket [0164685] into "Outreach and PR". <snip> > Voicemail from (415) 221-3541 at 3:40 PM > Transcript: Hi, My name is Heather. Casselle and I am a freelance > journalist with the know Knowing Valley Boys and I am calling because > I'm > working on our call about the spam. I'm Ted sales ordinance that's being > > proposed. I'd like to speak with someone from your organization. If you > > could give me a call back. At (415) 221-3541 by August 10th at 5 PM. I > look > forward to speaking with someone soon. Thank you very much and look > forward > to hearing from you soon. Once again, my name is Heather to sound. I'm > free > lance journalist with knowing Valley voice and my phone number is (415) > <snip> https://mickaboo.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentZoom&TicketID=65105 Your OTRS Notification Master

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Friday 1:30 @ Animal Company?
by Elizabeth Y 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

Friday 1:30 @ Animal Company- who's coming? What could we get from this meeting that would help birds? How does Mickaboo want to collaborate with pet sellers to increase pet adoptions? e -----Original Message----- From: Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:05 PM To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: Where and what time is Friday meeting with pet sellers? Elizabeth, The meeting on Friday, 8/5, at 1:30 pm at the Animal Company (24th St and Douglass). See you then. -- Sally -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Young Sent: Aug 4, 2010 2:29 PM To: Sally Stephens Subject: Where and what time is Friday meeting with pet sellers? Hi, Sally- I am able to attend. What time will it be and where? I'm working on getting some more senior Mickaboo leaders to attend as well. All best, Elizabeth ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Meeting w/pet store owners and others?? To: Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com> Hi, Sally- I am able to attend. What time will it be and where? I'm working on getting some more senior Mickaboo leaders to attend as well. All best, Elizabeth On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com> wrote: Elizabeth. Sorry I didn't get back to you. It was held yesterday. We had a long discussion, especially any alternatives the pet store owners had to offer, including the idea of somehow certifying certain stores to sell animals (similar in concept to taxi medallions, with a limited number of certifications allowed in the city and stringent requirements to get the certification), limiting any ban to national chains, having adoption fairs with various rescue groups at pet stores, pet stores taking small animals from ACC, and a ban that only applies to new stores (existing stores grandfathered in as long as owner remains the same). We'll meet next Friday, not sure when, to continue the discussion. We're hoping to get more rescues to attend that meeting. Would you be able to make that meeting? -- Sally -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Young Sent: Aug 1, 2010 3:12 AM To: Sally Stephens , Karen Watkins , Tammy Azzaro Cc: Michelle Yesney Subject: Re: Meeting w/pet store owners and others?? Hi- I wanted to follow up on this and see if the meeting was held on Friday or will be tomorrow or ? Thanks, Elizabeth On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Sally- We just can't get anyone who's available midday on a weekday but both Tammy & Karen (cc'd) would attend if this could be rescheduled to this Sunday, 8/1. Elizabeth On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com> wrote: Hi Elizabeth, The idea is this is a small group, so it's just Rick French and his wife from Animal Co, and John Ito from Animal Connection on Judah. I'm hoping someone from ACC will be there (haven't heard back from them yet), as well as myself and Philip Gerrie. Also the woman from the WIngs Foundation. So, if a few from your organization want to come, that'd be great. The idea behind this is to just see what, if any, common ground there may be from various people involved in the issue and to brainstorm ways all the different groups could work together to save animals and increase adoptions. -- Sally -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Young Sent: Jul 27, 2010 4:00 PM To: Sally Stephens Cc: Michelle Yesney Subject: Re: Meeting w/pet store owners and others?? Hi, Sally- If it was anything that I could change/rearrange so that I could attend, I would but this is an immovable schedule conflict. How many pet sellers do you expect? Mickaboo would actually like to send a couple of people (if we can find folks that can work it schedule-wise). Are other rescue folks invited as well? e On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com> wrote: Sorry you can't make it. Thanks for passing the invite along to others at Mickaboo. -- Sally -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Young Sent: Jul 27, 2010 12:15 AM To: Sally Stephens Subject: Re: Meeting w/pet store owners and others?? Hi, Sally- I am unavailable all day Friday. I have shared this invite with other Mickaboo leaders in the hopes that someone will be able to join you. I will let you know as soon as I do. Thanks, Elizabeth On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com> wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Would you be willing/able to meet with me, Philip Gerrie, and reps of pet stores and ACC to discuss the proposed ban on the sale of animals at pet stores? The idea is to exchange ideas and perspectives and to see if there is any common ground for the various sides of the issue. We're looking to meet this Friday, July 30 at about 1:30 or so somewhere in Noe Valley (likely a restaurant or coffeeshop). Can you join us? -- Sally -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Re: [Media-advisors] 3rd Request- SF Pet Sale Ban meeting with pet sellers?
by Jonathan Harris 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

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Story about bird rescuer in OR with a waiting list...
by Elizabeth Young 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

http://www.kptv.com/video/19491292/index.html -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Re: [Media-advisors] 3rd Request- SF Pet Sale Ban meeting with pet sellers?
by Jonathan Harris 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

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