Who was that white-haired lady who claimed to have the solution for the bird overpopulation problem, by simply letting her organization take and place all birds (if I understood correctly)? Barna On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:37 AM, C Dickinson wrote:

Yes it is very true and if it were not for you seeing the King Pigeons at the ACC did not have a rescue group, they would have had not had a chance. You gave them a face and protection.

____________________________________________________________ Cheryl A Reiki Master - www.cheryldickinson.com A MickaCoo Volunteer - www.MickaCoo.org A King Pigeon Rescuer - http://cheryldickinson.com/kings.htm

From: Elizabeth Y To: MickaCoo@mickaboo.org Cc: Karen Watkins ; Teresa Murphy

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; Philip Gerrie ; Jonathan Harris Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 12:10:12 AM Subject: [MickaCoo] A quote that really touched me

Hello-

I was at the SF Animal Control & Welfare Commission tonight (as were Cheryl D and Barna and several Mickaboo volunteers among others) and guinea pig rescuer Teresa Murphy made a presentation that included a quote that I've seen before but not in its entirety. It is from Mahatma Ghandi and the part that was both new to me as well as especially moving said "The more helpless a creature is, the more it deserves protection from human cruelty."

I have often wondered how I wound up being a pigeon rescuer and I think that is the answer.

Elizabeth Y www.RescueReport.org

_______________________________________________ MickaCoo mailing list MickaCoo@mickaboo.org https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mickacoo

Looks like she's a breeder from Los Gatos. http://birds2pet.com/howstart.html Her statement was only eclipsed by the other woman's who compared supporters of the ban to both to Nazis and terrorists. B On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Elizabeth Young wrote:

Barna asks- Who was that white-haired lady who claimed to have the solution for the bird overpopulation problem, by simply letting her organization take and place all birds (if I understood correctly)?

That was Mary Ellen LePage, VP of the American Federation of Aviculture (AFA) and yes- you understood correctly. She said last night that "there's no problem with excess birds" and asks that AFA be allowed to rehome all exotic birds.

Here are my notes on her comments to the Commission at the 7/8 meeting

Mary Ellen _____, VP of American Federation of Aviculture (flew in from ??) AFA opposes the whole ban but especially for birds recommends education and setting standards of care "We don't know that birds suffer in cages" "We don't know why birds pluck"

Elizabeth

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Barna Mink wrote: Who was that white-haired lady who claimed to have the solution for the bird overpopulation problem, by simply letting her organization take and place all birds (if I understood correctly)?

Barna

On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:37 AM, C Dickinson wrote:

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Yes it is very true and if it were not for you seeing the King Pigeons at the ACC did not have a rescue group, they would have had not had a chance. You gave them a face and protection.

____________________________________________________________ Cheryl A Reiki Master - www.cheryldickinson.com A MickaCoo Volunteer - www.MickaCoo.org A King Pigeon Rescuer - http://cheryldickinson.com/kings.htm

From: Elizabeth Y To: MickaCoo@mickaboo.org Cc: Karen Watkins ; Teresa Murphy

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; Philip Gerrie ; Jonathan Harris Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 12:10:12 AM Subject: [MickaCoo] A quote that really touched me

Hello-

I was at the SF Animal Control & Welfare Commission tonight (as were Cheryl D and Barna and several Mickaboo volunteers among others) and guinea pig rescuer Teresa Murphy made a presentation that included a quote that I've seen before but not in its entirety. It is from Mahatma Ghandi and the part that was both new to me as well as especially moving said "The more helpless a creature is, the more it deserves protection from human cruelty."

I have often wondered how I wound up being a pigeon rescuer and I think that is the answer.

Elizabeth Y www.RescueReport.org

_______________________________________________ MickaCoo mailing list MickaCoo@mickaboo.org https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mickacoo

-- Elizabeth

Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

Here is the link to the AVA: http://www.afabirds.org/index.shtml They have a "Business" office in Texas. Did she reach out to MickaBoo about helping with the troubled birds in our area? Does anyone know of how they facilitate care and adoption processes? I just don't think animals should be sold for profit period. Even if the AVA did have a perfect solution, it does not address all the other animal groups being euthanized or dumped. Just my humble opinion. ____________________________________________________________ Cheryl A Reiki Master - www.cheryldickinson.com A MickaCooVolunteer - www.MickaCoo.org A King Pigeon Rescuer - http://cheryldickinson.com/kings.htm ________________________________ From: Elizabeth Young To: Barna Mink ; Mickaboo media advisor team Cc: C Dickinson ; MickaCoo@mickaboo.org; Karen Watkins ; Teresa Murphy ; Philip Gerrie ; Jonathan Harris ; Pamela Lee Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 11:01:58 AM Subject: Re: [MickaCoo] A quote that really touched me Barna asks- Who was that white-haired lady who claimed to have the solution for the bird overpopulation problem, by simply letting her organization take and place all birds (if I understood correctly)? That was Mary Ellen LePage, VP of the American Federation of Aviculture (AFA) and yes- you understood correctly. She said last night that "there's no problem with excess birds" and asks that AFA be allowed to rehome all exotic birds. Here are my notes on her comments to the Commission at the 7/8 meeting Mary Ellen _____, VP of American Federation of Aviculture (flew in from ??) AFA opposes the whole ban but especially for birds recommends education and setting standards of care "We don't know that birds suffer in cages" "We don't know why birds pluck" Elizabeth On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Barna Mink wrote: Who was that white-haired lady who claimed to have the solution for the bird overpopulation problem, by simply letting her organization take and place all birds (if I understood correctly)?

Barna

On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:37 AM, C Dickinson wrote:

Yes it is very true and if it were not for you seeing the King Pigeons at the ACC did not have a rescue group, they would have had not had a chance. You gave them a face and protection.

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____________________________________________________________ Cheryl A Reiki Master - www.cheryldickinson.com A MickaCoo Volunteer - www.MickaCoo.org A King Pigeon Rescuer - http://cheryldickinson.com/kings.htm

________________________________ From: Elizabeth Y

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To: MickaCoo@mickaboo.org Cc: Karen Watkins ; Teresa Murphy ; Philip Gerrie ; Jonathan Harris ; Pamela Lee Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 12:10:12 AM Subject: [MickaCoo] A quote that really touched me

Hello-

I was at the SF Animal Control & Welfare Commission tonight (as were Cheryl D and Barna and several Mickaboo volunteers among others) and guinea pig rescuer Teresa Murphy made a presentation that included a quote that I've seen before but not in its entirety. It is from Mahatma Ghandi and the part that was both new to me as well as especially moving said "The more helpless a creature is, the more it deserves protection from human cruelty."

I have often wondered how I wound up being a pigeon rescuer and I think that is the answer.

Elizabeth Y www.RescueReport.org _______________________________________________ MickaCoo mailing list MickaCoo@mickaboo.org https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mickacoo

-- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0