July 2010 - Mickacoo - mickaboo.org

Pigeon in need- FW: bird help!
by Elizabeth Y 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

Hello- I can't help this bird and I don't have a foster spot for it but MickaCoo will pay for vet care if there is someone out there willing to take this bird in and foster and care for it. It may have string-tangled feet. Thanks, e -----Original Message----- From: K S <kelsher99(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:21 PM To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: Fw: bird help! --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Kiersten Fritzsche <kafritzsche(a)gmail.com> Subject: bird help! To: mail(a)mickaboo.org, lostandfound(a)mickaboo.org Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 5:18 PM Hi. My name is Kiersten and I work at Whole Foods in Campbell. We have an injured pigeon that is currently hanging out in our eating area outside. It looks like he/she cannot neither really walk nor fly. I don't want to call animal control, because I don't want the little guy/gal to be put down...I'd rather him/her be rescued and helped out. This probably isn't what you guys do, but if you have any suggestions, please let me know! Thank you for your help. Feel free to e-mail me back at kiersten.fritzsche(a)wholefoods.com (e-mail me there, because I don't check this particular account all too often) or call the number listed below. I'll be here until 4pm today and pretty much all day tomorrow. If you call, you can ask for myself or for Chris E., if I'm no longer at work. Thanks again! Kiersten Fritzsche Customer Service Supervisor Whole Foods Market 1690 South Bascom Avenue Campbell, CA 95008 (408) 371-5000 --0-1906292191-1280607675=4980--

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Re: [MickaCoo] [Mickaboo Discuss] Question re: Craigslist?
by Elizabeth Young 31 Jul '10

31 Jul '10

MickaCoo volunteers post to craigslist in SF, SJ amd Sac for pigeons and doves, as time and flaggers allow. Flaggers have been less of a problem lately, I believe. (Cheryl D- What's your MickaCoo craigslist posting been like?) And just my opinion- if there is someone available to do it, I think it is important to post to places (like craigslist) where people would go to "get" a bird (whether by buying or through adoption). Ads need to be good, clear, professional and fall within the Terms of Service. Thank you, Priya, for raising the topic. e On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Priya Tuvell <ptuvell(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That's what I was thinking Monica, we don't have to respond to the haters. > People might be interested in getting a bird, and just go straight to > craigslist. If they truly are interested they'd see our post about what we > do and what we offer, we could post for adoption events, or upcoming BBC > classes. Even if they don't adopt from us, at least they'd know how to take > care of the bird they do get. > I don't see how it would be like joining the dirty pigs. There will always > be those ignorant people out there that think rescues are greedy, but so > what? Why should we let them discourage, or supress us? As long as we don't > respond with hateful words/at all, I don't see it being a problem. Hopalong > does it, ARF does it, even county does it. I'm sure they all get hate mail > too, but they're getting the word out there that they have pets that need > homes, and that's what we would be doing too. > > When talking to my friends/coworkers at my vet clinic (including the > doctors) about what Mickaboo does, probably 99% of them didn't know that a > parrot rescue even existed, and they all are animal lovers/work in the > field... 3 of them own birds they bought from Petsmart, but said had they > known about Mickaboo they would've adopted from us. That's 3 conures we > could've gotten out of foster care, and 3 more birds we could've helped. > > I hope I'm not rambling, I figured this is a free way to advertise on a > popular medium and get the word out that we exist, and our birds need homes. > > On Jul 30, 2010 9:40 PM, "monica deza" <monicadeza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, that is true! I have always seen the bunnie rescues advertising their > classes on bunny care on craigslist, They also place some ads near easter > where they tell you to please not to buy a bunny for your kid as an easter > present because bunnies are not as cuddly as they look and your kid will > lose interest on them (that s how I got discouraged from bunnies awhile ago, > when I was still looking for a "cuddly pet" ).....that may be something very > worthwhile for us =). I am sure we will get some people who would like a > free bird, but among them, I am sure there may be some very good people, as > well,, right? With any rescue it is bound to happen we will get people who > just want a free bird, but if we have someone willing to screen those, I > think it s a win win situation, right? > Monica > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:45 PM, k s <kelsin(a)webtv.net> wrote: > > > > Craigslist is a wonderful sourc... > > > > > ------- HOW TO -------------------- > CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ > VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ > HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: > http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj > > > > > ------- HOW TO -------------------- > CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ > VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ > HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: > http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj > -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Products (one of which is on sale right now) that I've begun using for my pet & foster pigeons
by Elizabeth Young 30 Jul '10

30 Jul '10

Hello- I like to keep things simple and so am not big on additives and supplements but I was introduced to these two products and like them. One- the calcium gluconate- is to help support healthy egg-laying which may sound silly since we're pulling eggs and replacing with fakes but egg-binding and other reproductive issues can be very serious for hens. Good eggs can help them to avoid some of those risks. It may just be a coincidence but I believe my hens have been doing better since I started adding this to the water weekly. (I've also started adding crushed oyster shell to my birds' grit to better support hens' nutritional needs.) The other (which is the one on sale http://vitakingproducts.com/vkspecial1.htm $37 this month, regularly $45) is a "5 in 1" treatment that I use in my birds' water once a month (for 5 days). My coop, which sees so many new birds come through, is especially at risk of common pij ailments like worms, coccidosis, canker, etc. Using it for your flocks might be unnecessary or, perhaps, you may want to consider using it only quarterly or only for new birds that come in. There's another product that has been recommended, Foy's 4 in 1 ( http://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/catalog/6014.html) but it has been out of stock for quite a while (which is why I tried the VitaKing 5 in 1.) In any case- I just ordered mine and wanted to take a minute and share the info with you- something that has been on my To Do list for quite a while. *(Note: I'd prefer to purchase these items from Jedd's because they don't sell birds but they don't carry the calcium gluconate and charge $50 for the 5 in 1.)* * Calcium Gluconate * $7.50 Item # VIT0033 A water soluble product used to prevent calcium Qty: deficiency in hens during breeding and helps in the development of smoother and stronger eggs. During breeding season: use 1 tablespoon per gallon of water twice a week. 500 ml *5 in 1 Treatment * Treatment for coccidiosis, canker, respiratory, $45.00 worms, plus Vita Pro Combo. Combination of Item # ANT0050 amprolium, Ridzol S, tylosine, levamisol, Vita Pro Qty: Combo. Dosage: 2 level teaspoons (15 grams) per gallon of water for 5 days. 200 grams -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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SF Pet Sale Ban on yesterday's Today Show
by Elizabeth Young 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

TODAY™s Natalie Morales reports on a new proposal that would ban pet stores from selling live animals within the city limits of San Francisco in an effort to discourage puppy mills and breeding farms. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38444695#38444695 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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FW: [Mickaboo Discuss] Shark concession
by Elizabeth Y 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Please pass it on! -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Lee <pambudgie(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:08 PM To: rprewett(a)gmail.com; discuss(a)mickaboo.org Subject: [Mickaboo Discuss] Shark concession We have 4 volunteers other than Rachael (our co-coordinator) so far. We need a few more dependable folks to help with a concession stand at Shark games when they are at the hp pavilion. Include your adult family and friends when thinking of possible volunteers! If interested, please email pambudgie(a)yahoo.com. Thx for considering! Sent from my Peek - Pam ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj

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New Aviary coming on line in Pacifica
by C Dickinson 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Hello! For the past three weekends I have been preparing my yard for a new larger aviary in my yard to help foster rescued Pigeons. I currently have three pet Pigeons, two I personally found in Pacifica called Dovee and Jan and Mandee a homing pigeon I was fostering that I adopted. I also am fostering Teddy (King) / Chase (Blind Racer) and two Homers who fell in love in my office called Miles and Macy. My current Aviary is a sturdy metal structure 6 feet high, 4 feet wide and 7 feet long. I can put 4 to 6 pigeons, 6 only if they are the right temper for my Two Strong Boys Dovee and Teddy. Mandee gets chased all over if I put her in the smaller aviary. This Aviary once my new on is built will be available to disassemble and move to a new home that can foster Doves. The cage is more suited for smaller birds really. So hint hint anyone who is thinking about adding a Dove Foster Aviary, MickaCoo has two, one already available! The first steps to getting ready was to move my existing Aviary and I went ahead and did a deep clean on that. The following weekend I have 5 friends over and we had a digging party and dug out 8 by 14 feet, 7 to nine inches deep. Elizabeth from MickaCoo came and the others were good friends Mike, Linda, Debbie and Denise (catered to us with food all day). I have been working on moving some plants and dirt around and we have made two trips for supplies (one or two more to go) and I have ordered the pea gravel. My Brother Tom (Carpender and Contractor) is doing the entire build out donating his labor whilst I am at work on Wednesday and Thursday. The weekend I will most likely be working at getting the pea gravel in, maybe paining the exterior walls and a trip to buy materials to install some perches. and shelves. The final wire and roof will be done as my brother has time from the weekend into the next week:) I hope to have an open house in the next month or so to see the aviary and meet all the pigeons. The link to my photo album which I will update as the project completes is: Share this album with anyone by sending them this public link: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=230904&id=640866498&l=d05d1a9c26 All the best to all and no matter what make it fabulous! Cheryl :)____________________________________________________________ Cheryl A Reiki Master - www.cheryldickinson.com A MickaCoo Volunteer - www.MickaCoo.org A King Pigeon Rescuer - http://cheryldickinson.com/kings.htm

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House/cat/bird sitter needed in SF, Sept 8 - Sept 21
by Barna Mink 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Hi, My wife and I will go on vacation for 2.5 weeks to Europe in September, and we need someone to take care of our three cats and seven pigeons, as well as our house. Must be someone who is is experienced and good with animals, particularly cats (as the birds are very easy to take care of). Should be someone who can spend some time during the day and stay at the house overnight, and who can check in daily with us on email. Our house is in San Francisco, in the "Outer Mission", a quiet and residential neighborhood close to Daly City. We have all amenities (well, almost: no TV), broadband WiFi, lots of books, large vegetable garden in the back and a nice (vegan) kitchen. It's a nice house and we're cool people. If you know anyone who might be interested, please let me know! Thanks, Barna

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My 2 cents
by Cheryl Alley 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

Elizabeth, I¹m sorry this is getting so stressful, but Mickacoo can¹t be the only savior for these birds in need neither can Mickaboo for that matter. I was talking to my vet tech today about what¹s going on and he doesn¹t understand why the shelters aren¹t getting more involved in trying to place birds. So my question is is that maybe the next step to educate shelters about how to find new loving homes for birds, the way they do for dogs and cats? I know Andy¹s Pet shop, once they find a new location, will be devoting themselves to finding new homes for pets in need, so maybe it¹s about more community outreach and education and working to get more of the pet stores involved in the process. One of the comments from the LA times article addressed the comment that if pet stores didn¹t sell animals, they couldn¹t sell food. The writer¹s response was, but if you had more adoption fairs, they could still sell the food to take care of the animal they just adopted. As a newcomer to all of this it seems that Mickacoo and Mickaboo are in triage mode, so reacting to needs rather than figuring out if that¹s even the best reaction. Just like the stream about the parrot, that was really just being boarded and someone made a clerical error. If everything is rush to save, rather than finding a bigger way to solve the problem, I¹m not sure it¹s doing anyone any good for the long haul. As Robert said, he¹s running out of enthusiasm, but at least has Clint on his side. Not everyone can find the strength to keep going nor has the bandwidth to do anything, and none of us can healthfully do it forever. I know August is almost here and you wanted us to brainstorm some solutions. Well here¹s my first thoughts towards finding a better way, rather than just fighting fires and always on high alert. If we all go crazy, no one will be helping the birds. As a coach, we always talk about holding the space for our clients to play a bigger game it¹s all about finding a more universal solution, not working harder or longer hours. And Robert, if you and Clint are up to this weekend, great and if you need a break, that¹s ok too. If we all lose our minds, we can¹t help the birds. Sending out all my love and support. And holding the space that a solution will come from one of your brilliant and caring minds. Cheryl

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Re: [MickaCoo] [Mickaboo Discuss] Just wanted to let you know
by Elizabeth Young 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

Robert- thank you for the support and for the INCREDIBLE amount of volunteer hours (and skills and tools) you've been donating to repair/build MickaCoo aviaries! *Truly- thank you. * On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Robert Allen <rallen(a)atombum.com> wrote: > > It's important to release pressure by talking about it. Sorry it's not > going better yet. > > Robert > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> > > To: General mickaboo discussion <discuss(a)mickaboo.org>, > MickaCoo(a)mickaboo.org > > Cc: Sira Anderson <sirajean(a)hotmail.com> > > Subject: [Mickaboo Discuss] Just wanted to let you know > > Sent: 27 Jul '10 19:57 > > > > Hello- > > > > I just wanted to let you know that I've needed to turn away 2 injured > > feral pigeons and 3 want-to-surrender doves (all from different people) > in > > the past 36 hours. That's how things are going right now. MickaCoo > > is full and I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown. > > > > I've provided extensive offers of support and referrals to potential > > resources. Even so, it feels terrible. > > > > This rescue stuff is really, really tough. > > > > I don't know that I'm doing y'all any favors sharing this sad > > news but it seems important to communicate all sides of the story. > > > > So there you go. > > > > e > > > > > > -- > > Elizabeth > > > > Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. > > [LINK: http://www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/>] > www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> > > [LINK: http://www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/>] > www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> > > [LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > ------- HOW TO -------------------- > > CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: [LINK: > > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/] > > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ > > VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: [LINK: > > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/] > > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ > > HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: > > [LINK: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj] > > http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj > > > ------- HOW TO -------------------- > CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: > https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ > VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ > HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: > http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj > -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Just wanted to let you know
by Elizabeth Young 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

Hello- I just wanted to let you know that I've needed to turn away 2 injured feral pigeons and 3 want-to-surrender doves (all from different people) in the past 36 hours. That's how things are going right now. MickaCoo is full and I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown. I've provided extensive offers of support and referrals to potential resources. Even so, it feels terrible. This rescue stuff is really, really tough. I don't know that I'm doing y'all any favors sharing this sad news but it seems important to communicate all sides of the story. So there you go. e -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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