Hi, I would love to be there but I have to work out childcare. I'll get back to you today after my husband gets home. Thanks, tammy On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Karen Watkins wrote:

How about a maybe from me? I'm waiting to hear when funeral services will be held. If the service is Saturday, I'll take time off Friday.. If the service is Friday afternoon, I can't attend the meeting. I would love to discuss cost margins on pet sales with them. Karen

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On Jul 28, 2010 11:01 AM, "Elizabeth Young" wrote:

Hey folks-

So who's available? I'd change my Friday schedule to attend if I could but I can't. I need to get back to SF ACWC President Sally Stephens about who will be there.

Who will be there?

Thanks! e

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Michelle Yesney wrote: Is there any way to find out how many "reps of pet stores and ACC" they're talking about? I can't go (obviously) since I'm still in Oregon.

Tammy - can you be there? Karen? Rhonda?

My choice would be the three of you, if possible.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Elizabeth Young wrote: I'm unavailable this Friday unfortunately and so couldn't go even if y'all would let me. Somebody sure should!

Please let me know so that I can get back to Sally.

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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sally Stephens Date: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:16 PM Subject: Meeting w/pet store owners and others?? To: adoptkings@gmail.com

Hi Elizabeth,

Would you be willing/able to meet with me, Philip Gerrie, and reps of pet stores and ACC to discuss the proposed ban on the sale of animals at pet stores? The idea is to exchange ideas and perspectives and to see if there is any common ground for the various sides of the issue. We're looking to meet this Friday, July 30 at about 1:30 or so somewhere in Noe Valley (likely a restaurant or coffeeshop). Can you join us? -- Sally

-- Elizabeth

Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

-- Elizabeth

Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

Tammy Azzaro Mickaboo♡

These are interesting ideas. Especially in the event that the ban does not happen we should be thinking how to help the birds from the "back end." It's a slower process and probably less satisfying than an outright ban, but if it will still help the birds until a ban can happen, we need to steel ourselves and do it. On 7/28/10, Elizabeth Young wrote:

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And, while on the subject, I thought I'd repost Sally's description of the meeting's objective and see what ideas the group has-

*The idea behind this is to just see what, if any, common ground there may be from various people involved in the issue and to brainstorm ways all the different groups could work together to save animals and increase adoptions. *

I think there are two approaches- ways we could work together if pet sellers continue to sell birds and ways we could work together if pet sellers stopped selling birds. Here are some ideas that I (and I'm not sure which if any are good ones) but I want to jumpstart a discussion so here 'goes.

BIRDS CONTINUE FOR SALE 1. Pet sellers and staff could attend Mickaboo's Basic Bird Care & Avian Lighting classes and provide feedback on the material and Mickaboo could share what we've learned from our end of the "business" 2. Pet sellers could purchase "gift certificates" for each of their customers to attend a Mickaboo Bird Care class before purchasing a bird (say for $35/family) & Mickaboo could teach them the basics of up-to-date avian care (much more efficiently than pet sellers doing it one customer at a time) 3. Same for the Avian Lighting class 4. Pet sellers could do an audit of the foods and supplies they sell in order to eliminate unsafe/unhealthy products and Mickaboo volunteers could help 5. Pet sellers could agree to minimum cage sizes per species and Mickaboo could provide information based on years of seeing what doesn't work for birds 6. Pet sellers could contribute funds towards the care of unwanted and surrendered birds (whether to SFACC to divvy up amongst the rescues they use or to Mickaboo directly) and Mickaboo would have one more revenue stream to continue doing the work that needs to be done. 7. Pet sellers could publicize the many, many, many homeless birds that Mickaboo has available for adoption in their stores

BIRDS NO LONGER FOR SALE All of the above plus 8. Foster birds in their stores and help generate, educate and support adopters