Fwd: "No flock, no flight, no fair"

Shared this with Commissioner Philip's work group and am sharing it with
you, too.
Does anyone know anything about the Avian Welfare Coalition? Could they be
a resource that we're underutilizing?
Elizabeth
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I agree with Marcy's comments.
I suggest getting the word out about the next ACWC meeting coming up this Thursday at 5:30 room 408 at City Hall to those that would like to see a ban. Last month the Animal Company was out in numbers. We should also stop by local pet supply stores to hear what they think and for them to possibly come to speak at the meeting.
The phone book has listings of pet stores and pet supply stores.
Thanks, Philip
On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:54 PM, SaveABunny@aol.com wrote:
HI all, After sitting in on the meeting today with the pet store owners trying to determine if a compromise was possible versus a complete ban on the sale of animals, here's my impressions (for what they are worth):
The owner of the Animal Company is essentially not really willing to compromise. He and his friend, Claudia from The Basic Bird in Berkeley, are both very antagonistic, looking for confrontation and eager to distort facts and statements to their favor. While they say they agree to "education' they are not really willing to do anything different, since they already feel like they know it all and don't want rescues "telling them what to do". They feel that putting up a flyer in their store about a rescue group is doing enough. Recommendation: If possible isolate them. Position them as hardliners vs. other more workable stores. These two are the "leaders" and the people who are causing the majority of ill will and creating PR opportunities for themselves as the victims.
Personally, I think it's a big mistake to focus so much time and energy on trying to placate the very few stores that DO sell animals. The majority of stores in SF do not sell animals. This very important point is being lost in the mind of the public and the media as it seems like a large number of small businesses are being penalized somehow and that's simply not true.
Kat, is it possible to get some statistics on the number of stores that do or do not sell animals?
While a workable compromise with education would be nice, I do not think that will happen without some sort of oversight---based on the lack of current educational info being given out by these stores. Just because someone has been in business for 30 years, it doesn't equate to knowing updated or proper care for the animals.
In summary, I think a strong strategy would be to approach the majority of stores that do NOT sell animals to get them to help back a ban. Being able to demonstrate that it's possible to be profitable as a pet store without selling animals is key and is an excellent discussion to use in PR. Nothing would be more powerful than having the backing of a significant number of pet store owners in SF.
Thanks again everyone for being such a great advocate for the animals,
Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny www.saveabunny.org www.saveabunny.etsy.com 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life.
-- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org http://www.rescuereport.org/ www.MickaCoo.org http://www.mickacoo.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Elizabeth Young
Shared this with Commissioner Philip's work group and am sharing it with you, too.
Does anyone know anything about the Avian Welfare Coalition? Could they be a resource that we're underutilizing?
Elizabeth
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Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:26 PM Subject: "No flock, no flight, no fair" To: Philip Gerrie Cc: SaveABunny@aol.com, Rose Harris , "Elliot M. Katz DVM" , Sally Stephens , Pam Hemphill , Kim Flaherty , Kat.Brown@sfgov.org, jchick73@yahoo.com, Teresa Murphy < teresa@cavyspirit.com>, Jonathan Harris Hello-
I'm still in pain from having to listen to so much nonsense about "no such thing as bird mills" and there not being a bird overpopulation crisis.
I've attached some links to a recent news story, a "No Flock, No Flight, No Fair" flyer and several links for more info.
http://www.kptv.com/video/19491292/index.html
http://www.avianwelfare.org/issues/marketing.htm
http://www.avianwelfare.org/links/organizations.htm
Elizabeth
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Philip Gerrie
wrote: I agree with Marcy's comments.
I suggest getting the word out about the next ACWC meeting coming up this Thursday at 5:30 room 408 at City Hall to those that would like to see a ban. Last month the Animal Company was out in numbers. We should also stop by local pet supply stores to hear what they think and for them to possibly come to speak at the meeting.
The phone book has listings of pet stores and pet supply stores.
Thanks, Philip
On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:54 PM, SaveABunny@aol.com wrote:
HI all, After sitting in on the meeting today with the pet store owners trying to determine if a compromise was possible versus a complete ban on the sale of animals, here's my impressions (for what they are worth):
The owner of the Animal Company is essentially not really willing to compromise. He and his friend, Claudia from The Basic Bird in Berkeley, are both very antagonistic, looking for confrontation and eager to distort facts and statements to their favor. While they say they agree to "education' they are not really willing to do anything different, since they already feel like they know it all and don't want rescues "telling them what to do". They feel that putting up a flyer in their store about a rescue group is doing enough. Recommendation: If possible isolate them. Position them as hardliners vs. other more workable stores. These two are the "leaders" and the people who are causing the majority of ill will and creating PR opportunities for themselves as the victims.
Personally, I think it's a big mistake to focus so much time and energy on trying to placate the very few stores that DO sell animals. The majority of stores in SF do not sell animals. This very important point is being lost in the mind of the public and the media as it seems like a large number of small businesses are being penalized somehow and that's simply not true.
Kat, is it possible to get some statistics on the number of stores that do or do not sell animals?
While a workable compromise with education would be nice, I do not think that will happen without some sort of oversight---based on the lack of current educational info being given out by these stores. Just because someone has been in business for 30 years, it doesn't equate to knowing updated or proper care for the animals.
In summary, I think a strong strategy would be to approach the majority of stores that do NOT sell animals to get them to help back a ban. Being able to demonstrate that it's possible to be profitable as a pet store without selling animals is key and is an excellent discussion to use in PR. Nothing would be more powerful than having the backing of a significant number of pet store owners in SF.
Thanks again everyone for being such a great advocate for the animals,
Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny www.saveabunny.org www.saveabunny.etsy.com 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life.
-- Elizabeth
Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org http://www.rescuereport.org/ www.MickaCoo.org http://www.mickacoo.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0
-- Elizabeth
Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org http://www.rescuereport.org/ www.MickaCoo.org http://www.mickacoo.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0
-- Francie Waller Mickaboo Companion Bird Rescue Teacher, cockatoo coordinator & Sacramento area coordinator

The owner of the Animal Company is essentially not really willing to compromise. He and his friend, Claudia from The Basic Bird in Berkeley, are both very antagonistic, looking for confrontation and eager to distort facts and statements to their favor. While they say they agree to "education' they are not really willing to do anything different, since they already feel
Personally, I think it's a big mistake to focus so much time and energy on
AWC founded National Bird Day a few years ago to promote the welfare of
captive birds. I think they work more with shelters instead of grass-roots
rescues like Mickaboo. I have not heard anything bad about them and hear
their name come up once in a while. They're worth contacting to see what
they can and will do in this endeavor, IMO.
--VH
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[mailto:media-advisors-bounces@mickaboo.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Young
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Subject: [Media-advisors] Fwd: "No flock, no flight, no fair"
Shared this with Commissioner Philip's work group and am sharing it with
you, too.
Does anyone know anything about the Avian Welfare Coalition? Could they be
a resource that we're underutilizing?
Elizabeth
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From: Elizabeth Young
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Elizabeth Young
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Francie Waller
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Vincent J. Hrovat