Re: [Media-advisors] Fwd: Working Group Update August 6

Is anybody talking stats?
We have had the following requests in the LAST 2 WEEKS:
Man moving - must rehome 14 aviary cockatiels
Couple moving - need to rescue 19 aviary cockatiels from "being set free"
Phone request to rehome 30 cockatiels from a single home
I swear to God the next person who says there's no overpopulation problem is getting 50 cockatiels let loose in their house. Or maybe their store - much better impact.
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Date: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:02:54 pm
To: "Mickaboo media advisor team"
The owner of the Animal Company is essentially not really willing to compromise. He and his friend, Claudia from The Basic Bird in Berkeley, are both very antagonistic, looking for confrontation and eager to distort facts and statements to their favor. While they say they a

Maybe if the ban fails, they could require pet sellers to chip and register animals pre-sale, so rescue groups can bill the pet store for the eventual surrender. Surely they wouldn't be against the identification of the "precious pets"!!
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:31 PM, "Marthak816@gmail.com"
Is anybody talking stats? We have had the following requests in the LAST 2 WEEKS: Man moving - must rehome 14 aviary cockatiels Couple moving - need to rescue 19 aviary cockatiels from "being set free" Phone request to rehome 30 cockatiels from a single home
I swear to God the next person who says there's no overpopulation problem is getting 50 cockatiels let loose in their house. Or maybe their store - much better impact. -----Original Message----- Date: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:02:54 pm To: "Mickaboo media advisor team"
From: "Elizabeth Young" Subject: [Media-advisors] Fwd: Working Group Update August 6 booyah!
(Karen- please accept my apologies for worrying that expanding to include non-bird rescues in today's meeting was a misstep. i stand corrected. ey)
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Date: Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Working Group Update August 6 To: harris.rose@att.net, glassgerrie@gmail.com, emk@idausa.org Cc: adoptkings@gmail.com, stephensfw@mindspring.com, pam.hemphill@gmail.com, kflaherty@pacbell.net, Kat.Brown@sfgov.org, jchick73@yahoo.com HI all, After sitting in on the meeting today with the pet store owners trying to determine if a compromise was possible versus a complete ban on the sale of animals, here's my impressions (for what they are worth):
The owner of the Animal Company is essentially not really willing to compromise. He and his friend, Claudia from The Basic Bird in Berkeley, are both very antagonistic, looking for confrontation and eager to distort facts and statements to their favor. While they say they a

AND take all their offspring - look at that, free birds! On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:54 PM, AMuse wrote:
Maybe if the ban fails, they could require pet sellers to chip and register animals pre-sale, so rescue groups can bill the pet store for the eventual surrender. Surely they wouldn't be against the identification of the "precious pets"!!
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:31 PM, "Marthak816@gmail.com"
wrote: Is anybody talking stats? We have had the following requests in the LAST 2 WEEKS: Man moving - must rehome 14 aviary cockatiels Couple moving - need to rescue 19 aviary cockatiels from "being set free" Phone request to rehome 30 cockatiels from a single home
I swear to God the next person who says there's no overpopulation problem is getting 50 cockatiels let loose in their house. Or maybe their store - much better impact. -----Original Message----- Date: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:02:54 pm To: "Mickaboo media advisor team"
From: "Elizabeth Young" Subject: [Media-advisors] Fwd: Working Group Update August 6 booyah!
(Karen- please accept my apologies for worrying that expanding to include non-bird rescues in today's meeting was a misstep. i stand corrected. ey)
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Date: Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Working Group Update August 6 To: harris.rose@att.net, glassgerrie@gmail.com, emk@idausa.org Cc: adoptkings@gmail.com, stephensfw@mindspring.com, pam.hemphill@gmail.com, kflaherty@pacbell.net, Kat.Brown@sfgov.org, jchick73@yahoo.com HI all, After sitting in on the meeting today with the pet store owners trying to determine if a compromise was possible versus a complete ban on the sale of animals, here's my impressions (for what they are worth):
The owner of the Animal Company is essentially not really willing to compromise. He and his friend, Claudia from The Basic Bird in Berkeley, are both very antagonistic, looking for confrontation and eager to distort facts and statements to their favor. While they say they a

Seriously, if we wanted to print up and collate these OTRS tickets and drop them on the table with a thud next time somebody says there isn't an overpopulation problem, that's fair game, IMO. We'd need to remove sensitive information (names of surrenderers, details about Mickaboo operations, etc.) but we get the kinds of requests that Martha described all the time. If we mention one or two cases, I'm sure Rick will dismiss them as anecdotal exceptions, but if we dumped a few months' worth of these in front of the people around him, his denial would get pretty lonely. Even better (and I am not suggesting this :-)) we could just call his pet store each time we get a request to take in a mega-batch to be sure that they know about it and see if they want to help. --VH -----Original Message----- From: media-advisors-bounces@mickaboo.org [mailto:media-advisors-bounces@mickaboo.org] On Behalf Of Martha Kudlacik Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:59 PM To: Mickaboo media advisor team Subject: Re: [Media-advisors] Fwd: Working Group Update August 6 AND take all their offspring - look at that, free birds! On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:54 PM, AMuse wrote:
Maybe if the ban fails, they could require pet sellers to chip and register animals pre-sale, so rescue groups can bill the pet store for the eventual surrender. Surely they wouldn't be against the identification of the "precious pets"!!
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:31 PM, "Marthak816@gmail.com"
wrote: Is anybody talking stats? We have had the following requests in the LAST 2 WEEKS: Man moving - must rehome 14 aviary cockatiels Couple moving - need to rescue 19 aviary cockatiels from "being set free" Phone request to rehome 30 cockatiels from a single home
I swear to God the next person who says there's no overpopulation problem is getting 50 cockatiels let loose in their house. Or maybe their store - much better impact. -----Original Message----- Date: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:02:54 pm To: "Mickaboo media advisor team"
From: "Elizabeth Young" Subject: [Media-advisors] Fwd: Working Group Update August 6 booyah!
(Karen- please accept my apologies for worrying that expanding to include non-bird rescues in today's meeting was a misstep. i stand corrected. ey)
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Date: Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Working Group Update August 6 To: harris.rose@att.net, glassgerrie@gmail.com, emk@idausa.org Cc: adoptkings@gmail.com, stephensfw@mindspring.com, pam.hemphill@gmail.com, kflaherty@pacbell.net, Kat.Brown@sfgov.org, jchick73@yahoo.com HI all, After sitting in on the meeting today with the pet store owners trying to determine if a compromise was possible versus a complete ban on the sale of animals, here's my impressions (for what they are worth):
The owner of the Animal Company is essentially not really willing to compromise. He and his friend, Claudia from The Basic Bird in Berkeley, are both very antagonistic, looking for confrontation and eager to distort facts and statements to their favor. While they say they a
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AMuse
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