August 2010 - Media-advisors

Fwd: Survey results on pet sale ban
by Pamela Lee 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

ran across this, thought this group might be interested (if you had not already seen it). I thought the survey results were interesting - especially so given the tone of the lead-in article. Fyi - we had a breeder at the carmichael adoption fair this past weekend talk to us (and our fair attendees) about much the same issues, Same arguments and solutions (incuding him taking our birds and adopting them out) as I heard at the city hall hearings and this message board. Fortunately we were able to defuse him without the situation heating up. We were prepared to escort him and his family out, otherwise. Sent from my Peek - Pam ------------------------------------- From: Lee, Pamela A<pamela.a.lee(a)bankofamerica.com> To: pambudgie(a)yahoo.com Subject: Survey results on pet sale ban Date: Aug 30, 11:41 AM Article: http://www.examiner.com/parrot-in-national/san-francisco-pet-sale-ban-po stponed Poll referenced in article: http://www.qwanz.com/newresults/2256/code/ Pamela A Lee 415.436.5712 Home Loans Data Quality Management Compliance: It's everybody's business at Bank of America This communication is confidential and intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not copy, disclose, or distribute this message to anyone else; any such actions may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender. Regular email is not secure. We ask that you do not send personal or company information of a sensitive or confidential nature through unsecured email.

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Fwd: Mickaboo tiels situation
by AMuse 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Hi all. I've been interfacing a bit back and forth in the parrot_lovers thread on livejournal about our "'tiel situation". I left an email address on the thread for people to contact me and here's one of the messages I got. Internally only; where are we with this? I know that I lack a lot of information about the situation but the person below has been very reasonable in communicating with me (unlike much of the list) so I owe them at least a status update about their suggestion. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Mickaboo tiels situation Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:39:10 -0400 From: Renee LeCompte <maggock(a)gmail.com> To: matt(a)mickaboo.org Hey there! Since you provided an e-mail, I thought I'd drop you a line and just say thanks again for listening and forwarding my thoughts to others in the organization. I really do hope everyone can come to an arrangement that's good for all parties. It seems to me, standing slightly outside the situation (not completely, I must admit I'm a friend of James) that there's a good win-win-win scenario here: Cody clearly does not want the birds, as she signed a surrender document for them. James clearly does want the birds, as he is fighting for them. Mickaboo, being a rescue, obviously wants to adopt birds out to people who want them! I do realize that some concerns have been brought up about James' fitfulness as a bird owner, but I hope that Mickaboo will take into consideration the state of the birds when they received them (presumably healthy and well-adjusted individuals) and perform a home-check themselves, rather than depend on the questionable testimony of Cody, the spouse. >_> But... it seems adopting them back out to James would be a very ideal option here. I'm pretty sure mediation has been brought up in the parrot_lovers thread - would this be a viable option for Mickaboo? I know you keep saying you want to wait for the courts to decide, but it's not really utterly necessary for this to go to court, I don't think. Mediation might be a better, and cheaper, option, and would probably bring about a resolution more quickly. I think even just taking a more pro-active, constructive stance in this would help Mickaboo in the eyes of the community. Talking to James via mediation is another excellent option Mickaboo has, and I hope your organization can look into that! I am definitely sincere in saying I hope you can find a equitable solution to this. I know most everyone involved is good people and it's saddens me to see things not really going as well as they could have. And thank you for taking the time to interface in the parrot_lovers journal! I read through the entire thread and I know you're getting a fair amount of flak just for being the messenger. I can see why no one else wanted that job. I hope you continue your commenting though - I for one appreciate the communication; I think it does help in showing that Mickaboo is receptive to comments and suggestions on this situation. Renee

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FW: PIJAC question
by Elizabeth Y 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Not me. You? -----Original Message----- From: Teresa Murphy <teresa(a)cavyspirit.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:13 PM To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>; Karen Watkins <karen.watkins(a)gmail.com>; C Dickinson <chezd3(a)yahoo.com> Subject: PIJAC question Hi Ladies, I was wondering if anyone sent away for or knows about PIJAC's avian certification program? If so, I was wondering about your assessment of it. Cheers, Teresa http://www.pijac.org/animalcare/certification/

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Re: [Media-advisors] FW: PIJAC question
by Jonathan Harris 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

>From their Web site: "You benefit from this educational experience is in direct proportion to what you put into it. Some have learned a great deal or just a few new things, but everyone receives their “money’s worth” and much more … including pride in being even more knowledgeable than when they started the program." In other words, how much you put into it or get out of it has little or no bearing on whether you get certified? -j -----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> >Sent: Aug 25, 2010 12:24 AM >To: Mickaboo media advisor team <media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org> >Subject: [Media-advisors] FW: PIJAC question > >Not me. You? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Teresa Murphy <teresa(a)cavyspirit.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:13 PM >To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>; Karen Watkins <karen.watkins(a)gmail.com>; C Dickinson <chezd3(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: PIJAC question > >Hi Ladies, > >I was wondering if anyone sent away for or knows about PIJAC's avian certification program? >If so, I was wondering about your assessment of it. > >Cheers, >Teresa > >http://www.pijac.org/animalcare/certification/

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Re: [Media-advisors] FW: PIJAC question
by Marthak816＠gmail.com 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Jennifer Chadwick completed this as I recall from doing her home visit last year. -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:23:36 pm To: "Mickaboo media advisor team" <media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org> From: "Elizabeth Y" <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Media-advisors] FW: PIJAC question Attachments: pijac_new_avian_order_form.pdf (71 KB) Not me. You? -----Original Message----- From: Teresa Murphy <teresa(a)cavyspirit.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:13 PM To: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>; Karen Watkins <karen.watkins(a)gmail.com>; C Dickinson <chezd3(a)yahoo.com> Subject: PIJAC question Hi Ladies, I was wondering if anyone sent away for or knows about PIJAC's avian certification program? If so, I was wondering about your assessment of it. Cheers, Teresa http://www.pijac.org/animalcare/certification/

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Re: [Media-advisors] Fwd: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal
by Jonathan Harris 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

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Fwd: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal
by Elizabeth Young 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

I'd encourage leadership to look at this and provide an official Mickaboo opinion/recommendations ASAP. Entirely separate from this proposal, I wanted to know if: - anybody has taken the AFA Avian Fundatementals online course? (I'd love to but REALLY need to redirect my energy back to MickaCoo which has suffered from my reduced time investment) - if so, what your impressions are Thanks, Elizabeth ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:40 PM Subject: Fwd: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal To: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)earthlink.net>, Sally Stephens < stephensfw(a)mindspring.com>, Rebecca Katz <Rebecca.Katz(a)sfgov.org>, Kat Brown <Kat.Brown(a)sfgov.org>, Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>, Jack Aldridge <drjackthevet(a)yahoo.com> Hi All, I gave Mary Ellen LePage my email at the last Commission meeting because she was requesting a contact to send us her "solution" to the homeless bird problem. Attached is her document and I would very much like your feedback. Note that this proposal is to substitute for a ban and that AFA members include breeders. I am not sure why she talks about the SPCA and not ACC. She may not be clear about those details. Thanks, Pam ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mary Ellen LePage <mail(a)birds2pet.com> Date: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM Subject: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal To: Pam Hemphill <Pam.Hemphill(a)gmail.com> Cc: Marilyn Hawley <mhawley44(a)aol.com> Commissioner Pam Hemphill, Thank you for allowing me to present this proposal to the commission. I think it is simple, cost saving and will be effective. I hope for success in San Francisco so that it will spread cross country. San Francisco helped the American Federation of Aviculture recognize your problem so that we can offer a solution. I would like to work with your commission and animal control on a one-to-one basis. I can come to San Francisco to meet with you. Although I own a small property in San Francisco, I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains about 2 hours' drive from San Francisco, therefore telephone contact is good, also. I am very excited about this program and dedicated to its success. Please distribute the proposal to the commission and let me know how we can proceed to the next step. Thank you for your help. Mary Ellen LePage, Vice President of the American Federation of Aviculture Telephone: 408-997-3113 Cell: 408-373-5494 Fax: 408-323-1802 Address: 15466 Los Gatos Blvd, Suite 105-198 Los Gatos, CA 95032 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Re: [Media-advisors] Fwd: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal
by Marthak816＠gmail.com 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Really all they've done is place themselves over all the bird rescues. And what's the deal with calling adopters "volunteers"? Indeed a sloppy piece of work. -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:05:42 pm To: "Mickaboo media advisor team" <media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org> From: "Elizabeth Young" <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Media-advisors] Fwd: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal Interesting how their help is offered contingent on the continued sale of birds. So, if bird sales are banned, all these exotic homeless birds that need help can go screw themselves (my words). Question: Do dog and cat breeders acknowledge that there is a dog and cat overpopulation problem? (Sidebar- If you asked the 40 million "surplus" dogs and cats that are being euthanized each year in this country, I bet they'd say there's a problem.) e On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Tammy Azzaro <tammyazzaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Easy. They never say they will take them to the vet, period. > They say they will handle those birds deemed unhealthy on "a case by case > basis". I guess they'll die from untreated disease or injury one-by-one. > This is just a loooong way of saying "forget about the ban, let US take all > of the birds and we'll handle it because we know about birds". > We are supposed to assume that because the AFA members are AFA members they > will know how to properly care for a

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Re: [Media-advisors] Fwd: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal
by Pamela Lee 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

I'm not replying in an official capacity. As a jane doe I would have these questions: 1- how will the surrendered birds live out their lives? As pets or breeders or? 2- to their first bullet point - what happens if afa cannot find a new home and the surrenderer cannot take the bird back? 3-does the offer extend to the wild parrots of telegraph hill? 4-what about birds who are anonymously surrendered (left at spca's doorstep, so to speak)? or found at a park, backyard, etc? 5-4th bullet point - does 'animal agency' mean the spca (1st bullet point)? Do they have bird experts now? 6- second-to-last bullet point -- what are the 'other alternatives'? Sent from my Peek - Pam ------------------------------------- Elizabeth Young<adoptkings(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'd encourage leadership to look at this and provide an official Mickaboo opinion/recommendations ASAP. Entirely separate from this proposal, I wanted to know if: - anybody has taken the AFA Avian Fundatementals online course? (I'd love to but REALLY need to redirect my energy back to MickaCoo which has suffered from my reduced time investment) - if so, what your impressions are Thanks, Elizabeth ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:40 PM Subject: Fwd: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal To: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)earthlink.net>, Sally Stephens < stephensfw(a)mindspring.com>, Rebecca Katz <Rebecca.Katz(a)sfgov.org>, Kat Brown <Kat.Brown(a)sfgov.org>, Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>, Jack Aldridge <drjackthevet(a)yahoo.com> Hi All, I gave Mary Ellen LePage my email at the last Commission meeting because she was requesting a contact to send us her "solution" to the homeless bird problem. Attached is her document and I would very much like your feedback. Note that this proposal is to substitute for a ban and that AFA members include breeders. I am not sure why she talks about the SPCA and not ACC. She may not be clear about those details. Thanks, Pam ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mary Ellen LePage <mail(a)birds2pet.com> Date: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM Subject: American Federation of Aviculture Exotic Bird Re-homing Proposal To: Pam Hemphill <Pam.Hemphill(a)gmail.com> Cc: Marilyn Hawley <mhawley44(a)aol.com> Commissioner Pam Hemphill, Thank you for allowing me to present this proposal to the commission. I think it is simple, cost saving and will be effective. I hope for success in San Francisco so that it will spread cross country. San Francisco helped the American Federation of Aviculture recognize your problem so that we can offer a solution. I would like to work with your commission and animal control on a one-to-one basis. I can come to San Francisco to meet with you. Although I own a small property in San Francisco, I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains about 2 hours' drive from San Francisco, therefore telephone contact is good, also. I am very excited about this program and dedicated to its success. Please distribute the proposal to the commission and let me know how we can proceed to the next step. Thank you for your help. Mary Ellen LePage, Vice President of the American Federation of Aviculture Telephone: 408-997-3113 Cell: 408-373-5494 Fax: 408-323-1802 Address: 15466 Los Gatos Blvd, Suite 105-198 Los Gatos, CA 95032 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Re: [Media-advisors] Cool quote for other pioneers
by Jonathan Harris 15 Aug '10

15 Aug '10

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