July 2010 - Media-advisors

Fwd: [Mickaboo Discuss] Avian Rescue Group in Concord
by Elizabeth Young 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

see highlighted point below. i think what Mike is saying is true for many. i think the Mickaboo Admins team is waaay out front of the Mickaboo General Discussion group with who is saying what and why regarding the ban, etc. i'd bet there are quite a few of our Mickaboomers that don't support the ban (which is fine- free country) but think it's important that our best communication be to our own members. i think everything we share with press and blogs and such should be shared with the members first so they know where leadership is at and aren't learning about Mickaboo from outside. is Jonathan's piece ready for sharing? or ??? e ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <MReedOAK(a)aol.com> Date: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Mickaboo Discuss] Avian Rescue Group in Concord To: discuss(a)mickaboo.org Maybe I am dense. Feel free to just respond to me if you want but I really have no idea what you mean by they are what some of our detractors accuse of us of being. Mike Reed In a message dated 7/19/2010 5:48:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 1217(a)vhrovat.org writes: > Maybe we could check in to this organization in Concord > when we need to turn birds away? > Avian Rescue Corporation (ARC) > http://www.avianrescuecorp.org/ We already have. They are what some of our detractors accuse us of being. --VH ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj ------- HOW TO -------------------- CHANGE PERSONAL SETTINGS: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/discuss/ VIEW LIST ARCHIVE: https://mickaboo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/discuss/ HOW TO RESET YOUR LIST PASSWORD: http://confluence.mickaboo.org/x/2wFj -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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Pet Store list SF
by SaveABunny＠aol.com 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

HI All, I think the place to go next is to get the stores that DO NOT sell animals to support the ban and also to show that small business in SF can and do thrive without selling live animals. There are two tabs - one of stores that don't sell pets and one of stores that do. So far, there are more stores that do not sell any animals than those that do. This is the start of the list, but it's probably best for you guys to confirm the info and talk directly with the store owners. Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny _www.saveabunny.org_ (http://www.saveabunny.org/) _www.saveabunny.etsy.com_ (http://www.saveabunny.etsy.com/) 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life.

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Fwd: Working Group Update July 21 11AM
by Elizabeth Young 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

nice piece from San Mateo SPCA Prez- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/white/detail?blogid=102&entry_id=67533 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:06 AM Subject: Working Group Update July 21 11AM To: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Cc: Sally Stephens <stephensfw(a)mindspring.com>, saveABunny(a)aol.com, Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>, Kim Flaherty <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net>, Rose Harris <harris.rose(a)att.net>, "Elliot M. Katz DVM" <emk(a)idausa.org> I looked this up this AM http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/white/detail?blogid=102&entry_id=67533 I thought it was very well written. You may have seen it already. Philip On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Philip Gerrie wrote: I will call Ed Buck in LA about sunsetting time allowance and the small business perspective. He's been very helpful. He originally introduced in West Hollywood the dog and cat ban. I don't remember if the issue came up there. Philip Begin forwarded message: *From: *"Elliot Katz" <emk(a)idausa.org> *Date: *July 20, 2010 8:20:35 AM PDT *To: *"'Philip Gerrie'" <glassgerrie(a)earthlink.net> *Subject: **FW: Working Group Update July 20 6:25 AM* *Reply-To: *<emk(a)idausa.org> Hi Philip, you might want to call the LA people and get their input. Did this issue come up there? *From:* Philip Gerrie [mailto:glassgerrie@gmail.com <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> ] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:27 AM *To:* Rose Harris *Cc:* Elizabeth Young; Kim Flaherty; Pam Hemphill; Anna Williams; Elliot M. Katz DVM *Subject:* Working Group Update July 20 6:25 AM I've expanded this list a bit. Let me know if anyone does not want to be on it. I could use some help in this Small Business Commission angle. It sounds like Rick, of the Animal Company, thinks his business interests should trump animal welfare concerns. Are their precedents to cite?? Sally is out of town so I'll be going. Also what are suggested phase-out times if the ban is approved for existing pet stores?? One year? Two years? Three years? more?? Philip The Small Business Commission has been contacted by a small business bird retailer who requested that we become involved in the discussion over prohibiting the sales of animals in San Francisco. The Legislation and Policy Committee has requested an information only presentation by the pet store owner at its July 26 meeting and we will welcome a presentation by a representative of your department and/or the Commission of Animal Control and Welfare. These presentations are for information only and will allow the Committee to be better informed on this issue. We are asking that presentations be limited to 7-10 minutes in length. No action will be taken by the Committee at this time. The meeting will be held on Monday, July 26 from 5:00-7:00pm at City Hall in room 400. This will be the second item on the calendar, though the first item may take some time. Unfortunately, we cannot make a prediction on what time it will be called, other than our intent is to stay within the scheduled meeting time. Information that the Committee hopes to receive from your department includes background on the proposal, reasoning behind amendments (our understanding is that it began as prohibiting the sale of cats and dogs,) along with a timeline. If a representative of your team is able to make a presentation, please put them in contact with me and I can work with them on any final arrangements or logistics. Regards, Chris Chris Schulman Senior Policy Analyst / Commission Secretary Office of Small Business City Hall, Room 110 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: 415.554-6408 Fax: 415.558-7844 On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Philip Gerrie wrote: Rebecca intends to talk, one to one, with the Mayor soon so he can understand what the concerns and issues are. That should help. Pam and I met with 11 of the twelve Supervisor's aides or interns today. Many Supervisors, we were told, care a lot about animals, witness the recent Meatless Monday resolution, first passed in SF and taken up in cities all over the world. That all seemed open to what we would be proposing. Several asked if we had a sponsor yet, needing at least one Supervisor to actually take it on. We don't and won't until we vote on something. Several had had conversations already with Rebecca. All in all, better than we had hoped after having been flooded, in some cases, with PIJAC and NAIA inspired e-mails. http://www.pijac.org/petinformation/breakingnews.asp and http://www.capwiz.com/naiatrust/issues/alert/?alertid=15168701&type=CU. The aides suggested being specific to what we propose versus just "pets" for instance. I am unclear of whether to propose banning all birds or just of the parrot species along the lines of HSUS. Another concern was when should go into effect. Immediately for dogs and cats. 3-6 months for 'smalls' and ?? (three years) more? less?for the birds. Thoughts? PIJAC is interesting in that they oppose anything and everything having to do with legislating selling animals. They oppose banning a sale of pythons and constrictors as they take over the Everglades. Any further comments or reflections Pam? Loose lips sink ships, so be wary of forwarding this around. Philip On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:49 PM, LDY wrote: Politics make me crazy. Such a shame that the Director of ACC can't just tell the public what's right and best for the animals. This is her job??? We live in such a sad world. L-Danyielle --- On *Mon, 7/19/10, Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>* wrote: From: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: working group? To: "Philip Gerrie" <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Cc: harris.rose(a)att.net, "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net> Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:26 AM Even if ACC is not in a position to speak publicly for the ban, I think now is a really opportune time for them to express their concerns about the plight of shelter pets- the numbers, the need for volunteers, for donations (for themselves and the rescues that support the animals- Mickaboo's expenses are going ever higher and we're struggling!), for spaying and neutering, for thinking about shelter pets... It seems like they could speak to the problems on the animals' behalf even if not committing themselves to the ban as a solution. e On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com>> wrote: ACC is supportive. Rebecca suggested that Supervisors can call her and she'll tell them her position. Since she's a mayoral appointee, and the mayor isn't sure where he stands currently on this, she can't go public public but more behind the scenes at the moment. Pam was at the same meeting with Rebecca and perhaps confirm what I heard? Philip On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:31 AM, LDY wrote: Yes, ACC's verbal input is vital. They were very instrumental in getting a cat declawing ban passed in SF last Winter. How can we get them to speak out? Actually I don't know how much they support this proposal, I would hope all of it. L-Danyielle --- On *Sun, 7/18/10, Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com> >* wrote: From: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: working group? To: "Philip Gerrie" <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> >, harris.rose(a)att.net <http://mc/compose?to=harris.rose@att.net> Cc: "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=pam.hemphill@gmail.com>>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net<http://mc/compose?to=kflaherty@pacbell.net> > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 9:14 AM A thought/question- I know that SFACC really appreciates all that the rescue organizations do to keep animals out of the shelter; to help care for, socialize and ease their time while in the shelter; and to save them from being euthanized when their time is up. I'm wondering what they have to say about all this and think their voices have particular importance in this discussion. I think that SFACC could generate considerable support for their own needs, for adopting rather than buying/breeding, and for the ban by speaking up more right now. Everybody in the SF "pet world" has an incredible opportunity to be heard right now- this story is nationwide- and I think the rescue folks can use this to help rescue animals no matter what happens with this ban. I'm happy to share this with SFACC leadership directly if that would be a more appropriate approach. Thanks, Elizabeth ------------------------------ *From: *Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:31 PM *To: *harris.rose(a)att.net <http://mc/compose?to=harris.rose@att.net> *Cc: *Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com>>; Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=pam.hemphill@gmail.com>>; Kim Flaherty <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net<http://mc/compose?to=kflaherty@pacbell.net> > *Subject: *Re: working group? I'm planning to talk with Supervisors or, more likely, their aides, Monday. i'll have a better sense of what to do after that I hope. Philip On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:31 AM, LDY wrote: I'm interested in helping. What would it involve? Maybe we have to meet to figure that out? L-Danyielle --- On *Fri, 7/16/10, Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> >* wrote: From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=glassgerrie@gmail.com> > Subject: working group? To: "Elizabeth Young" <adoptkings(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adoptkings@gmail.com> > Cc: "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=pam.hemphill@gmail.com>>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net<http://mc/compose?to=kflaherty@pacbell.net>>, "Rose Harris" <harris.rose(a)att.net<http://mc/compose?to=harris.rose@att.net> > Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 10:25 PM Hi Elizabeth et al, ( In lists of persons, *et al.* (an abbreviation of *et alii*, meaning "and others")) I think it would be good to identify who wants to be active in making this ban happen. Once identified, meet to strategize, etc before the next ACWC meeting. I can only represent myself and not speak for the Commission. We could do much of it via e-mail. I plan to be going to City Hall monday to visit all the Supervisors about this as they have been bombarded by those against the ban. It looks like PIJAC is a driving force. A David & Goliath scenario? The minutes from the last meeting will be helpful. They will only be available, though, when posted on the ACWC website. Pam, please let me know if you think I am overstepping in any way doing this. Thank you, Philip -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org <http://www.rescuereport.org/> www.MickaCoo.org <http://www.mickacoo.org/> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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FW: Pet Store list SF
by Elizabeth Y 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

FYI, reads bottom up e -----Original Message----- From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:32 PM To: SaveABunny(a)aol.com Cc: adoptkings(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: Pet Store list SF We are all surprised by how this as blossomed so quickly. We are all learning very quickly. I've been working on the minutes and have gotten into the statements made by the anti-ban folks. As soon as I get it done it can be posted on the ACWC website. Thank you for your expertise and support, Philip Ps. Please include whoever you think would be helpful. On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:41 PM, SaveABunny(a)aol.com wrote: Hi Phillip, Yes, please include me in your working group. Would it be Ok for me to share the group emails with the two other board members who made very significant contributions to the article in the Chronicle? They are both excellent strategic thinkers and persuasive writers. They have very valuable skills to add and I could also use the support. Our group came into this project sort of unexpectedly and very late in the game. I had no idea until I came to the meeting last month how contentious this issue was and how much work needed to be done. We want to back all efforts to ban the sale of animals in SF. I am glad that the idea of talking with pet stores that do not sell animals has already come up. It seems like a logical way to go to ask for the support of those stores. They are also good examples of alternative business models, since they don't sell animals. Thank you very much for your recognition of our article and your support of this important issue. Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny www.saveabunny.org www.saveabunny.etsy.com 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life. In a message dated 7/20/2010 7:08:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glassgerrie(a)gmail.com writes: Hi Marcy, I'm ahead of you on that. In that HSUS had suggested it to me a few months back. They had a program that i didn't feel like participating in because stores that signed up and did not sell pets would be on their referral list. It also wasn't my role as Commissioner to be going to pet supply stores in behalf of HSUS for their support. Would you like to be included on my working group efforts? Elizabeth suggested including you. I visited all the Supervisors yesterday with a copy of your "protect a right to solve a problem" from last Fridays Chronicle in hand as the best reasoning for the ban. Philip Begin forwarded message: From: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Date: July 20, 2010 9:48:44 AM PDT To: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Pet Store list SF FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <SaveABunny(a)aol.com> Date: Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:45 AM Subject: Pet Store list SF To: media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org, miratweti(a)parrotpress.net, adoptkings(a)gmail.com HI All, I think the place to go next is to get the stores that DO NOT sell animals to support the ban and also to show that small business in SF can and do thrive without selling live animals. There are two tabs - one of stores that don't sell pets and one of stores that do. So far, there are more stores that do not sell any animals than those that do. This is the start of the list, but it's probably best for you guys to confirm the info and talk directly with the store owners. Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny www.saveabunny.org www.saveabunny.etsy.com 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life. -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0 =

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Re: [Media-advisors] Reply to thread 'Where'd MickaCoo go?'
by SaveABunny＠aol.com 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

I think these people may have been looking for confrontation. not "fire." Fortunately, my co-writer and my husband helped tone down what I was writing instead. Almost everyone else has really praised the professionalism and writing of these three pieces. I would have liked to see Sally Stephens piece be stronger in tone, but I can see why she may have toned it down. I don't think that this So. Cal bird rescuer is correct and I think that the more "normal" and less argumentative we can come across, the better to the general public. To each other we can communicate more strongly. Is there a reason you copied Phillip Gerrie? How often do you write him? Marcy Schaaf Founder, SaveABunny _www.saveabunny.org_ (http://www.saveabunny.org/) _www.saveabunny.etsy.com_ (http://www.saveabunny.etsy.com/) 415-388-2790 "A New Generation of Rabbit Rescue" Save A Bunny. Save A Life. In a message dated 7/19/2010 10:54:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, adoptkings(a)gmail.com writes: some feedback on the three editorials recently published in support of the ban in the SF Chron from major So Cal rescuer (of pigeons, songbirds, ducks, geese, etc. etc.) Terry Whatley. interesting when we're worrying about not coming across as too wild-eyed... e ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pigeon-Talk <_support(a)keebali.com_ (mailto:support@keebali.com) > Date: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:46 PM Subject: Reply to thread 'Where'd MickaCoo go?' To: _AdoptKings(a)gmail.com_ (mailto:AdoptKings@gmail.com) Dear Elizabethy, TAWhatley has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Where'd MickaCoo go? - in the General Discussions forum of Pigeon-Talk. This thread is located at: _http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=45784&goto=newpost_ (http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=45784&goto=newpost) Here is the message that has just been posted: *************** JMO .. there's no FIRE in any of those articles. I'm sure the people care, but as an outsider .. the articles didn't suck me in and make me care. Obviously, I care already, but the articles need to be seriously boosted in order to make an impact. Terry *************** There may also be other replies, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again. All the best, Pigeon-Talk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unsubscription information: To unsubscribe from this thread, please visit this page: _http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/subscription.php?do=removesubscription&type=t hread&subscriptionid=80883&auth=6730f3f5ef9befe10f169473de366d5a_ (http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/subscription.php?do=removesubscription&type=t… criptionid=80883&auth=6730f3f5ef9befe10f169473de366d5a) To unsubscribe from ALL threads, please visit this page: _http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/subscription.php?do=viewsubscription&folderid =all_ (http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/subscription.php?do=viewsubscription&folderid…) -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. _www.RescueReport.org_ (http://www.rescuereport.org/) _www.MickaCoo.org_ (http://www.mickacoo.org/) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0)

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FW: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores
by Elizabeth Y 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Just FYI -----Original Message----- From: New York Bird Club <bestbirdclub(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:31 AM To: adoptkings(a)gmail.com Subject: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores To view the thread go to: http://forums.manhattanbirdclub.com/post?id=4805538 Subject: Oasis Sanctuary *likes* Bird Channel Sybil Erden, the Director of the Oasis Sanctuary, *likes* Bird Channel page on Facebook. Why does she support petstores? Read their Mission Statement: Bird Talk magazine, the leading pet bird magazine has been around for more than 25 years covering the pet bird industry and community. It and its sister publication, Birds USA, and its website www.BirdChannel.com are known as the best source for news, health, nutrition, behavior, training and housing in all things pet bird with its expert editors and writers. Bird Talk, Birds USA and BirdChannel.com are part of the BowTie Inc. stable of magazines and books. News on BirdChannel.com provided by... (read more)Mission:To provide information on pet bird care and a place for bird lovers to find resources and meet others in the bird community.Products:BirdChannel.com offers pet bird information and fun bird activities to bird lovers. Be a part of our growing community of bird lovers and bird enthusiasts. Get the latest advice on bird training basics, bird behavior, proper bird nutrition, and bird health. Ask questions to our bird experts and join our BIRD ECLUB® to meet other members of our bird community. This message was sent from New York Bird Club to adoptkings(a)gmail.com. It was sent from: New York Bird Club, P.O. Box 286231, New York, NY 10128. You can modify/update your subscription via the link below. Email Marketing by Manage your subscription View this message in the iContact Community: View message Comment on this message Receive as RSS Share this message with others: del.icio.us Digg reddit Facebook StumbleUpon

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Re: [Media-advisors] Fwd: A Ban project
by Jonathan Harris 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

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Re: [Media-advisors] FW: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores
by Jonathan Harris 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

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Re: [Media-advisors] FW: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores
by Mary Long 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Thought I'd share this - I'm certain she wouldn't mind it be distributed. --- On Tue, 7/20/10, AMuse <amuse(a)foofus.com> wrote: From: AMuse <amuse(a)foofus.com> Subject: Re: [Media-advisors] FW: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores To: media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:58 AM For what it's worth, I thought the Oasis explanation was pretty good, in that the magazine is attempting to get people involved with their pet birds' health and welfare, and that keeps the birds out of the rescues. On 7/20/10 9:55 AM, Mary Long wrote: Those aren't the best publications out there. Unfortunately it contains too much ick advertising, "pretty" pictures, and, at times, gross generalizations (and junk) - but some articles contain tid-bits of decent enrichment/nutrition/information. (I think it's akin to the parrot's version of People Magazine) - but I didn't see anything in on the site that suggests she "likes" pet stores... Manhattan Bird Club has some good members, but it is also notorious for supporting gross exaggerations and partial-truths and guilt-by-association. It's like saying, "If you've visited Germany, you must be a Nazi." In this case, because she "likes" a magazine she supports pet-sales? Unless it's pointed out to me, I can't see where they gleened that info. Actually, I'm annoyed enough that I'm going to write Sybil and ask her. --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Media-advisors] FW: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores To: "Mickaboo media advisor team" <media-advisors(a)mickaboo.org> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 8:37 AM Just FYI From: New York Bird Club <bestbirdclub(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:31 AM To: adoptkings(a)gmail.com Subject: Oasis Sanctuary supports pet stores To view the thread go to: http://forums.manhattanbirdclub.com/post?id=4805538 Subject: Oasis Sanctuary *likes* Bird Channel Sybil Erden, the Director of the Oasis Sanctuary, *likes* Bird Channel page on Facebook. Why does she support petstores? Read their Mission Statement: Bird Talk magazine, the leading pet bird magazine has been around for more than 25 years covering the pet bird industry and community. It and its sister publication, Birds USA, and its website www.BirdChannel.com are known as the best source for news, health, nutrition, behavior, training and housing in all things pet bird with its expert editors and writers. Bird Talk, Birds USA and BirdChannel.com are part of the BowTie Inc. stable of magazines and books. News on BirdChannel.com provided by... (read more)Mission:To provide information on pet bird care and a place for bird lovers to find resources and meet others in the bird community.Products:BirdChannel.com offers pet bird information and fun bird activities to bird lovers. Be a part of our growing community of bird lovers and bird enthusiasts. Get the latest advice on bird training basics, bird behavior, proper bird nutrition, and bird health. Ask questions to our bird experts and join our BIRD ECLUB® to meet other members of our bird community. This message was sent from New York Bird Club to adoptkings(a)gmail.com. It was sent from: New York Bird Club, P.O. Box 286231, New York, NY 10128. You can modify/update your subscription via the link below. Email Marketing by Manage your subscription View this message in the iContact Community: View message Comment on this message Receive as RSS Share this message with others: del.icio.us Digg reddit Facebook StumbleUpon -----Inline Attachment Follows----- -----Inline Attachment Follows-----

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HELP NEEDED FW: Working Group Update July 20 6:25 AM
by Elizabeth Y 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

If anyone has any info on this, please share with me and I will forward on to Philip. Thank you! e -----Original Message----- From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:26 AM To: Rose Harris <harris.rose(a)att.net> Cc: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>; Kim Flaherty <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net>; Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>; Anna Williams <annaw1123(a)gmail.com>; Elliot M. Katz DVM <emk(a)idausa.org> Subject: Working Group Update July 20 6:25 AM I've expanded this list a bit. Let me know if anyone does not want to be on it. I could use some help in this Small Business Commission angle. It sounds like Rick, of the Animal Company, thinks his business interests should trump animal welfare concerns. Are their precedent to cite?? Sally is out of town so I'll be going. Also what are suggested phase-out times if the ban is approved for existing pet stores?? One year? Two years? Three years? more?? Philip The Small Business Commission has been contacted by a small business bird retailer who requested that we become involved in the discussion over prohibiting the sales of animals in San Francisco. The Legislation and Policy Committee has requested an information only presentation by the pet store owner at its July 26 meeting and we will welcome a presentation by a representative of your department and/or the Commission of Animal Control and Welfare. These presentations are for information only and will allow the Committee to be better informed on this issue. We are asking that presentations be limited to 7-10 minutes in length. No action will be taken by the Committee at this time. The meeting will be held on Monday, July 26 from 5:00-7:00pm at City Hall in room 400. This will be the second item on the calendar, though the first item may take some time. Unfortunately, we cannot make a prediction on what time it will be called, other than our intent is to stay within the scheduled meeting time. Information that the Committee hopes to receive from your department includes background on the proposal, reasoning behind amendments (our understanding is that it began as prohibiting the sale of cats and dogs,) along with a timeline. If a representative of your team is able to make a presentation, please put them in contact with me and I can work with them on any final arrangements or logistics. Regards, Chris Chris Schulman Senior Policy Analyst / Commission Secretary Office of Small Business City Hall, Room 110 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: 415.554-6408 Fax: 415.558-7844 On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Philip Gerrie wrote: Rebecca intends to talk, one to one, with the Mayor soon so he can understand what the concerns and issues are. That should help. Pam and I met with 11 of the twelve Supervisor's aides or interns today. Many Supervisors, we were told, care a lot about animals, witness the recent Meatless Monday resolution, first passed in SF and taken up in cities all over the world. That all seemed open to what we would be proposing. Several asked if we had a sponsor yet, needing at least one Supervisor to actually take it on. We don't and won't until we vote on something. Several had had conversations already with Rebecca. All in all, better than we had hoped after having been flooded, in some cases, with PIJAC and NAIA inspired e-mails. http://www.pijac.org/petinformation/breakingnews.asp and http://www.capwiz.com/naiatrust/issues/alert/?alertid=15168701&type=CU. The aides suggested being specific to what we propose versus just "pets" for instance. I am unclear of whether to propose banning all birds or just of the parrot species along the lines of HSUS. Another concern was when should go into effect. Immediately for dogs and cats. 3-6 months for 'smalls' and ?? (three years) more? less?for the birds. Thoughts? PIJAC is interesting in that they oppose anything and everything having to do with legislating selling animals. They oppose banning a sale of pythons and constrictors as they take over the Everglades. Any further comments or reflections Pam? Loose lips sink ships, so be wary of forwarding this around. Philip On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:49 PM, LDY wrote: Politics make me crazy. Such a shame that the Director of ACC can't just tell the public what's right and best for the animals. This is her job??? We live in such a sad world. L-Danyielle --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: working group? To: "Philip Gerrie" <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Cc: harris.rose(a)att.net, "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net> Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:26 AM Even if ACC is not in a position to speak publicly for the ban, I think now is a really opportune time for them to express their concerns about the plight of shelter pets- the numbers, the need for volunteers, for donations (for themselves and the rescues that support the animals- Mickaboo's expenses are going ever higher and we're struggling!), for spaying and neutering, for thinking about shelter pets... It seems like they could speak to the problems on the animals' behalf even if not committing themselves to the ban as a solution. e On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> wrote: ACC is supportive. Rebecca suggested that Supervisors can call her and she'll tell them her position. Since she's a mayoral appointee, and the mayor isn't sure where he stands currently on this, she can't go public public but more behind the scenes at the moment. Pam was at the same meeting with Rebecca and perhaps confirm what I heard? Philip On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:31 AM, LDY wrote: Yes, ACC's verbal input is vital. They were very instrumental in getting a cat declawing ban passed in SF last Winter. How can we get them to speak out? Actually I don't know how much they support this proposal, I would hope all of it. L-Danyielle --- On Sun, 7/18/10, Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Elizabeth Y <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Subject: RE: working group? To: "Philip Gerrie" <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com>, harris.rose(a)att.net Cc: "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net> Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 9:14 AM A thought/question- I know that SFACC really appreciates all that the rescue organizations do to keep animals out of the shelter; to help care for, socialize and ease their time while in the shelter; and to save them from being euthanized when their time is up. I'm wondering what they have to say about all this and think their voices have particular importance in this discussion. I think that SFACC could generate considerable support for their own needs, for adopting rather than buying/breeding, and for the ban by speaking up more right now. Everybody in the SF "pet world" has an incredible opportunity to be heard right now- this story is nationwide- and I think the rescue folks can use this to help rescue animals no matter what happens with this ban. I'm happy to share this with SFACC leadership directly if that would be a more appropriate approach. Thanks, Elizabeth From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:31 PM To: harris.rose(a)att.net Cc: Elizabeth Young <adoptkings(a)gmail.com>; Pam Hemphill <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>; Kim Flaherty <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net> Subject: Re: working group? I'm planning to talk with Supervisors or, more likely, their aides, Monday. i'll have a better sense of what to do after that I hope. Philip On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:31 AM, LDY wrote: I'm interested in helping. What would it involve? Maybe we have to meet to figure that out? L-Danyielle --- On Fri, 7/16/10, Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Philip Gerrie <glassgerrie(a)gmail.com> Subject: working group? To: "Elizabeth Young" <adoptkings(a)gmail.com> Cc: "Pam Hemphill" <pam.hemphill(a)gmail.com>, "Kim Flaherty" <kflaherty(a)pacbell.net>, "Rose Harris" <harris.rose(a)att.net> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 10:25 PM Hi Elizabeth et al, ( In lists of persons, et al. (an abbreviation of et alii, meaning "and others")) I think it would be good to identify who wants to be active in making this ban happen. Once identified, meet to strategize, etc before the next ACWC meeting. I can only represent myself and not speak for the Commission. We could do much of it via e-mail. I plan to be going to City Hall monday to visit all the Supervisors about this as they have been bombarded by those against the ban. It looks like PIJAC is a driving force. A David & Goliath scenario? The minutes from the last meeting will be helpful. They will only be available, though, when posted on the ACWC website. Pam, please let me know if you think I am overstepping in any way doing this. Thank you, Philip -- Elizabeth Until they all have homes, don't buy, don't breed- adopt. www.RescueReport.org www.MickaCoo.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjyooh3Yo0

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